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#1 Posted : 7/2/2014 12:34:39 AM

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I recently made a 10x salvia extract for the first time, it was so simple and easy that I started doubting if I'd done it right and thought that it probably hadn't worked well but boy was I wrong..

I recently had a bit of a difficult LSD experience which I'm trying to make sense of but I'm not really in a place in life where I have a lot of time to spend thinking deeply about things and I thought that salvia might give a headspace where I could maybe get a bit of insight and move forward with new energy to work on the things in my life that I need to be working on.

I only smoked 2 hits before realising that I can't be smoking this on my own and here's why:

The first hit I smoked around 40mg and the effect really creeped in, I felt as if my conciousness had teleported to another dimension briefly and the perception of my body formed into a sort of wheel which started turning through different dimensions until it turned into ours and into my body again (like the end position of the wheel was inside my body and I just kind of fell into place again) but as I came back to this reality I still felt the push of the wheel as if it wanted to continue pushing me through to another reality but it felt like this one would be lost and destroyed if I let it (and somehow I thought my friend that I had just been skyping with would die) so I desperately tried to make contact with him as the effects wore off.

The second time was truly profound and I don't really know how I feel about it..
this time I smoked 0.5 and as I lay back, rather seemlessly I was in another dimension or another existance but I had no thought in my mind that I'd taken something and it was very real. I was in some sort of warehouse and several other people were walking alongside me talking about various things that I don't remember and I walked over to this box which contained a bunch of slides and as I was flicking through them I noticed my room (the place where I was lying down) was in one of these slides and once again I felt like that dimension would be lost forever so I stepped into the slide, stepping back into my body and I was seriously confused by how certain I was that what I had just experienced was real.. I was kind of disturbed at the thought that there is another universe which I felt I belonged to but now I was here and what the hell is this existence that I'm in now actually is if that other world was real. I think I shouted out 'WHAT IS THIS?' and then became very afraid that someone outside had heard me and were on their way in to check up on me.

The experiences themselves weren't disturbing, hostile or uncomfortable in anyway but it's just how it relates to my life that truly has me stumped.

I feel fine now, better than I did before infact. They were 2 very short experiences but they crush most other psychedelic experiences I've had (bar dmt) in how profound it was. I've read a lot regarding Salvia but I feel like this was almost nothing like what I've read! I guess that's due to how difficult it is to describe the experiences we have.

I probably wont work with salvia more until I've gotten used to the effects with the presence of a sitter.

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#2 Posted : 7/2/2014 1:36:58 AM

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Wow! Hey, didn't someone else post recently about looking at slides and feeling like they could step in to different realities through the slides? Sounds bizarre and interesting. Thanks.
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#3 Posted : 7/2/2014 12:20:17 PM

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I believe that was me on my last DMT + caapi tea experience but this although similar in the sense of portals to other dimensions they presented themselves very differently.

These slides I saw on salvia were like windows where I could see into these other worlds and what was going on in them. I can't remember how the slides in my dmt experience looked but they were nothing like each other but the same idea behind them.

What this experience felt like is that I for a short time entered the body of some alternate version of myself and when I came out of the experience I could still hear what was going on there.

I'm really intrigued but not in a place in life where I have time to experience the derealisation I experienced afterwards for any longer period of time.

Would love to hear from others who're experienced with salvia.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/2/2014 3:39:13 PM

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I occasionally have lucid dreams that remind me somewhat of your experience, though I can't know for sure.
Usually, I will be awake, conscious, and talking to someone in the dream when suddenly I will become overwhelmingly tired and have to lie down in the dream - at which point my body starts to wake up in the physical. I sometimes can still feel things (like a leaf I was holding in the dream world as one example) for a few seconds when I wake up.

Just recently, I had dream where I was talking with a male friend about philosophical stuff on a back porch. It was quite real - as you say. I wanted to ask him if he had ever tried DMT. As soon as the question was coming out of my mouth I starting feeling like I was about to blast off into hyperspace. I sat down and stopped talking, leaving my dream friend hanging mid-sentence. I thought, "I've done this before, I'm not going to be afraid." I closed my eyes and the whole blast off experience started to happen, but when I broke through, my eyes opened in my physical body - lying on the bed robbing and hour long nap in the middle of the day.

The slides thing is really interesting. I have a feeling everyone comes back on spice and salvia, but when you are there and having to make choices which lead to leaving the physical farther and farther behind it is hard to go forward with confidence.
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#5 Posted : 7/2/2014 9:34:23 PM

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I suppose it raises that question of where does conciousness go when we sleep? hmm, I don't know if I've ever gone to sleep in a dream but I remember reading someone else who'd never even tried dmt having a dream where they became tired and went to sleep within the dream and when they entered that dream they felt fully concious but suddenly they started blasting off into another world and it sounded identical to a DMT experience.

Interesting that you brokethrough your dream back into waking life. Did you feel any residual effects after the dream that were dmt-like?

Both of these experiences where I've been presented with 100's of different windows into other dimensions has left an impression on me. reality doesn't seem as solid as it used to if that makes any sense?
 
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#6 Posted : 7/2/2014 10:59:30 PM

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I don't know about residual dmt feeling upon waking, just that the take off felt very similar and I "arrived" in physical matter.

I have had a few dreams where I woke up only to find myself inside another dream. One time I woke up, felt groggy looking around my room when I noticed the comforter on my bed was a different color and some things were in different places. As soon as I was aware that things weren't quite right I woke up again, but this time the experience concluded back in the physical. I think we are inter-dimensional beings and there is probably a very good reason so much of it is veiled from us. Good to lift the veil from time to time.
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