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I've never taken any harmalas either caapi or rue but am planning on doing them alone before mixing with DMT. I read they are psycho active alone however I only here if drunken feelings nausea and some colorful visions when laying down as effects. Does the experience also effect the mind in the way a true psychedelic does and therefore is it possible to have bad trips in the way u would on say acid or mushrooms where you feel your losing your mind or you'll never come back etc? That moment when you wonder if this time you went too far....
Obviously everything discussed here is the fictional accounts of someone with an out there imagination. I mean really could any of these tales be real?
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The most I've taken(without psilocybin or DMT) was about 200mg of harmala HCL. It's hard for me to describe the effects. Very entertaining. We went floating down a river on inflatable rafts. I would like to consume a larger amount and see where it takes me, but I have banned myself from psychedelics until i finish our move. I figured it may be kind of difficult getting good stuff out of an experience if the whole time is spent fretting over the superficial BS that accompanies moving. Sometimes it's good for a change. Other times it isn't.
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Yes, but not as likely. Even at high doses where your consciousness is splitting into several dream-like psychedelic trance complexes/scenarios at the same time, or you're being thrust into OBEs, there is, for me at least, a kind of emotional cushion that isn't really there when tryptamines are thrown in the mix. And some of the time you're not even aware that it's happening, then when you realize it you snap right out of it and it fades. The hardest thing for people might just be working around the nausea and learning to access the doors it can open up on its own. If you lay down and meditate in silent darkness, and don't move at all, over time it becomes much easier to get there with almost no nausea, once you find your sweet spot.
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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Harmalas are very safe, even at high #s 600mg... It is very grounding experience, it is earth... Nobody I administrated had any problems except me, lol.... So the only thing I felt is reflection of my mind, I could see my arrogant attitudes for example.
I personally nor anybody I know in real life ever had any visual experience. But here I read it is possible...
Don't worry, you'll be fine
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universecannon wrote: there is, for me at least, a kind of emotional cushion that isn't really there when tryptamines are thrown in the mix. And some of the time you're not even aware that it's happening, then when you realize it you snap right out of it and it fades.
same. I find them very mellowing and anxiolytic, lights become brighter colours become more defined music clearer I couldnt see myself having a difficult time unless my setting became very stressful or traumatic.. Ive mixed too much THC at the same time and that was an edgy fearful ride , weed for me should always be smoked 20-30 mins after to get the best of both worlds. I like smoking some before sleep and listening to some music in complete darkness and drifting off into dreamworld where my subconscious can express itself.I love the taste too a bit like hazelnut The nausea passes quickly too after a couple of sips of oj.
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I would say the risk for psychological/mental emergency situations is very small. Difficulty comes only from the nausea. Feelings of madness, racing throughts and mental instability is not a usual pattern. More the opposite, extreme calmness, hypnotic trance state, OBEs, floating body sensation. It can get stressful/difficult if you mix in some other substances. Coffeine can become like Cocaine .
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