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#21 Posted : 6/28/2014 3:01:04 PM

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Maybe this thread should be moved from the humor and fun section.........it's not very funny.
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#22 Posted : 6/28/2014 3:14:54 PM

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anrchy wrote:

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How about you pull your sexism back up and in where it belongs. Why does the Attitude apply to everyone but women here?


How does the attitude not apply to those being offended? Put MY sexism up and in where exactly? Thats kind of messed up.

Just to be clear I changed my comment, and it means exactly the same thing as my previous comment. Lettin off a little steam with a little wacky wacky seems to work well.


You're still trying to justify the idea that your ability to make jokes that others find offensive is somehow more important than someone else feelings on the matter.

And the difference between your 'oppression' and the oppression of female-bodied and female-identified people is one of scale and continuity. You might be able to make to make the claim that us telling you not to make a sexist joke counts as some kind of oppression, but given your identity (cisgender male, and I'm going to tentatively assume white, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), that is about the most extreme oppression you're likely to the face in the US today. You can't make jokes on the internet.

Pandora (being female bodied/identified) experiences a whole host of oppressions that you probably don't even notice, as a function of your status as a cismale. To you, the tampon joke is just that: a joke that didn't mean any offense, but to a female bodied/identified person, that joke is seen as normalizing the oppression of women by painting women as 'biologically inferior, over-emotional' and all those other cultural tropes that tacitly reinforce men's superiority over women.

You can say "well I didn't mean it to be hurtful," but people vary rarely do. There's no cabal of bearded, white men sitting around stroking cats and evilly saying "how can we best oppress women and PoC today, muahahaha), but rather, this is just cultural momentum, carried mostly by guys who do what you're doing.

It's also natural to get defensive about this kind of stuff: no one likes getting called out and told they're in the wrong, and no one thinks making a joke makes you a 'bad person.' But it's worth educating yourself on the consequences of making such jokes and holding such opinions.

I highly recommend you read the Male Privilege Checklist, I found it very illuminating when I was just starting on all this stuff.
http://amptoons.com/blog...ale-privilege-checklist/

Last thing: there are some, very unlucky women who do have hormonal imbalances associated with menstruation that do qualify as 'serious disorders' and they don't look like any of the stereotypes you jokingly imagine: they're really scary and, in my opinion, no more acceptable a target for humor than severe depression, schizophrenia or cancer.

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#23 Posted : 6/28/2014 4:28:15 PM

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No.

Im not trying to justify anything. Im trying to point out that fighting fire with fire is stupid. Can't make jokes on the internet??? are you being serious? The whole internet has a higher percentage of memes, jokes, and negative outlook on over seriousness than any other thing online. If your online and you get offended by something oh well.

Now this community is something different. Different walks of people here and I get that, but I dont feel that supporting the idea that being offended by mere words in a joke is a healthy thing. Especially on a forum about personal growth using psychedelics. I already apologized, and I meant it.

Please stop bringing oppression into this. No matter how many times someone points to it doesnt make it correct. Just because tampons are used by women does not mean my joke had anything to do with oppression. I am in no way sexist, making a joke that can be interpreted as sexist does not make me sexist. I am also not upset by all of this, disappointed... yes i am very disappointed.

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but given your identity (cisgender male, and I'm going to tentatively assume white, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), that is about the most extreme oppression you're likely to the face in the US today.


what exactly does this mean? Labeling me as sexist because I am a white male? I do not fall into the category as defined by being cisgendered. Most extreme oppression that I am likely to face? uhg... I am not even going to get into that.



Everyone stop right now. Seriously. No more comments about anything that wasnt intended in the OP. I dont care who you are (except trav of course), I swear if this thread gets locked...

Everyone needs to go eat a cactus.
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anrchy
#24 Posted : 6/28/2014 4:36:20 PM

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So its possible that some of the articles blew stuff out of proportion.

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As anyone who’s suffered through DPRK media knows all too well, North Korea frequently declares that an American or South Korean action is an act of war against Pyongyang. North Korea also quite frequently threatens war against the U.S. and South Korea if they take some sort of action. These are not the same thing; North Korea is portraying itself as the victim of America’s “undisguised terrorism and a war action.” It is not threatening to start a war against the United States.


http://thediplomat.com/2...r-over-seth-rogan-movie/
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#25 Posted : 6/29/2014 12:59:49 AM

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