Greetings Nexus, after years of research and anticipation I finally had/have the opportunity to explore hyperspace. But I'm not so sure if what I'm using is the real deal..or if it's just weak. With nothing else to compare to, I need your help.

I placed around 25-30mg sandwiched between ashes in my Arizer solo bent stem. I started at 185°C, setting 2, which I thought would be the perfect temperature. Hardly any vapor was produced, but once I moved it up a setting a semi-harsh, light invisible vapor shot directly into my lungs. I attempted to hold it in but it's almost like my body had an instant reflex to cough it out. On the next 2 pulls, I was able to keep the vapor in my lungs and just kind of coughed while keeping my mouth closed and holding it in. There was never any thick, vapor clouds like when vaping marijuana, more like "ghosting" of the vapor. But I did see a little vapor cloud when taking my lips off the stem. Is it supposed to be like this? I've read about people getting thick milky vapor clouds so that's the first thing that made me alarmed. Now onto the effects..

After exhaling the 3rd pull, it was like an eerie silence fell over the room. I felt the need to whisper to myself and the vape looked a little more detailed in my hand (maybe a tiny bit more far away too). I took another pull and when I exhaled I felt an overwhelming need to just go lay down, like I was going to fall asleep that second. There were no open eye visuals, and nothing closed eyed still, just a really really tired sensation. I figured falling asleep wasn't the way you blastoff, so I kept taking more and more vapor hits until I was struggling to stay awake and to make sure I cleared the amount. Still no visuals or anything closed eye...maybe the lighting looked a little brighter on the wall but I don't know if that was just a placebo effect. And background noises just seemed dimmed down or lower.

So my main question is..does this sound at all like what happens when you first try it? How do I know that I wasn't just holding in some noxious chemical, thus cutting off oxygen flow to the brain temporarily, making me feel the need to run and fall asleep? That really tired feeling only lasted about 5 minutes (which I felt maybe was a good sign), it didn't cause me to go to bed for the night.. And once I was done feeling all tired, I did have to run and pee really bad! which I read some users experience. But again, if you inhaled unknown chemicals I'm sure your body would attempt to clear it out quickly as possible too!

It's a light tan powder with shiny little specs which I hope to be crystals but I'm really not sure. The mason jar I'm storing it in smells like pool chemicals when you open it which worries me a bit but obviously I'm not familiar with the proper smell and that could be normal. It left a thick, black resin at the bottom of the vapor stem and it does actually smell like a new pair of shoes wrapped in tissue paper if I had to pick a scent.

Do you think this is real? Should I keep trying? Any advise helps!

Did you extract it yourself or acquire it.some other way? Unless you did the work yourself it could be anything you have there.
Once you've smelled the real goods there's no mistaking it, it's very distinctive. Doesn't sound like any kind of effect even close to the real thing from your description...

The new shoe smell yea the look yea. But the effects you describe no. In no way would you be sleepy from DMT.

Your device your using to vape may be terribly inefficient. However you could have something that isn't at all DMT. Do yourself a favor and extract it yourself and unless your sure the one providing it to you is extracting and they are trustworthy.

Your life isn't worth it man. Nor your mind or mental functions.

Its.not hard to extract. Anyone can learn it just study the teks for a few weeks and while you source your bark.

Beats dealing with the situation you've.found yourself in any day.

It was almost like an instant "I'm going to sleep now" feeling. I'm not the one who extracted it..
So are you saying that the photo I posted does infact look like it? You are both right, I just don't have the means to complete an extraction myself unfortunately. Thanks for responding.

What I'm saying is. Ive seen DMT that looked similar.

However. DMT can look a varieties of ways depending on source.material. which tek was used, particular batch of bark etc. Therefore the only sure way of knowing what you have is by doing it yourself or if it was given to you by someone you truly trust.

However your experience was not that one of DMT so therefore it most likely isn't DMT. With the chance that the way you vaped was highly inefficient and the effects you stated where placebo.

Either way its not worth risking your life or.mind when you can just do a extract yourself.

My advice and probably most people here as well. Just dump whatever you have in trash and obtain what you know for a fact is DMT and don't risk it with what you have.

I can have this kind of feeling -sleepiness- with very low dose. Most of the time, bodyload is heavier on low dose

If the vapor is light and you need several pulls to clear 30mg, it's not concentred enough. To breakthrough with 30 mg, you need to clear it in one go. Or taken in 3 lung full, no breakthrough but you can feel it propely.

You probably have to work your vaping tek.



Of course, i absolutly don't know if you spice is good or no and the best way to be sure of the quality is to extract yourself.

Bon voyage...

I do trust the person it came from. Part of that reason is because they told me all the effects they had from this exact batch and how awesome it was..which now I don't honestly believe..

Part of me doesn't want to believe their trip report now that you guys are saying none of those effects sound like DMT, because they mentioned the eerie silence too and feeling really tired before the effects started. So if DMT doesn't do that, obviously it can't be DMT?

It's frustrating waiting to try something forever than to just have to chuck it but better safe than sorry I guess. And I definitely can't wait to compare smells, someone's going to hear it for sure if it doesn't match up

DansMaTete, thanks for sharing that! Maybe the sleepiness is infact because I was taking in way less than expected.

It does sound odd. You might have just gotten a small amount...DMT can make me sleepy sometimes, but usually on the comedowns. And low doses feel similar to a low dose of mushrooms really. Either way I'd just extract or brew your own to be on the safe side.

EDIT: I also second the suggestion of performing your own extractions.

Sorry, Trav.

Thanks for that advise Entheogenerator, I will for sure be buying a reagent test. I thought the whole time that I had to have vaped the dose effectively because of using temperature ranges people have had success with. I might just give this another go in my bong with no water, using the steel scrubber pad method and being very very careful with the lighter. They were pretty weak hits compared to what that vaporizer usually does.

I wonder what all the people answering the OP are thinking. It is clear that this substance, whatever it is, is bought. And on the DMT-Nexus we do not want to see that in any form!


Do you all realize that by answering posts like this one that you are helping the buying and selling of DMT by dealers? And that this dealing of DMT is one of the main reasons why we see DMT busts covered in media? And that this unwanted attention endangers us all? Do you all see the bigger picture and the fine line we are walking here now?

If you want to do proper harm reduction then you would tell the OP to discard what he/she has and to perform a proper extraction. That way the OP would have a much better understanding what he/she has.

Normally I would suspend all who helped the OP (this has happened in the past) and I might still do that. I'm very angry that this happened while it has been said over and over and over again that WE DO NOT CONDONE BUYING/SELLING IN ANY FORM (And yes, helping identify what is clearly a bought substance is part of what we see as buying/selling)!

Let this be a warning for you all and next time: please think ahead and use common sense! There is more at stake than someone wondering what their bought substance is.


The Traveler

Paranoia is a good thing.
In all fairness though none of the posters who answered mentioned buying or selling. The only post in this thread that goes against the rules of the Nexus is the OP itself. Maybe the mods can lock or delete it?
Like Traveller says we all walk a thin line, that's why it can be good to be paranoid, it keeps you alert. It is hard to decide when and what to post here. Topics are taboo, and there's a very thin line between clever and stupid.
It seems unfair to chastise the people that answered, the majority of them did as you asked, they recommended the substance be thrown away and the person learn to extract themself.
Please don't ban me Trav for answering you. I understand the predicament you and we all share.

The Traveler, I didn't buy anything. It was the classic "it found me" scenario, oddly enough after reading a lot about it, and it was exchanged for something else among friends that wasn't money. I didn't intend on breaking the rules, just wanted to clear up some questions about my 1st experience using it. I've seen plenty of posted pictures of it here, so I thought that it was ok. If you need to close the thread that's okay my mistake.