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#1 Posted : 6/19/2014 8:19:09 PM

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Does this happen to anyone else? It's only happened a few times, usually when I do third eye opening exercises (emitting certain vocal tones and breath work). It's there, in the back of my throat, that unmistakable DMT floral taste you get when clearing the GVG. It's subtle, like taking a hit from the GVG when there is almost nothing in there. There are no DMT effects (unfortunately) when this happens, but I find it curious.

Anyone else have this happen? If nothing else, it is definitely encouraging me to keep up my daily meditation (after a long absence).
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#2 Posted : 6/19/2014 8:38:12 PM

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There are some here on The Nexus who believe that, when doing certain meditations, your body can produce high doses of aromatic tryptamines (including N,N-DMT and 5-MeO-DMT), which are secreted by the soft palate and can trigger profound entheogenic experiences.

I can't recall exactly which member explained this to me (they had a very high post-count), but they claimed to have experienced it first hand.

Personally, I have never come across anything, in any existing literature about this, so I'm reserving judgement, but you're not the first person to claim this phenomena.

Maybe all this pineal gland stuff isn't pseudoscience after all.


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#3 Posted : 6/19/2014 8:48:50 PM

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In Strassman's book, there was a note about how some of the subjects tasted the DMT fumarate as it was injected.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/19/2014 8:52:41 PM

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Here's the topic I was talking about: Hyperspace Fool was discussing 'Amrita.'

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&m=490728

Hyperspace Fool wrote:

I will say that it is my feeling that Amrita is made whenever the third eye stimulated to a certain level... with or without the mudra. There are many ways to stimulate a chakra. You can move energy there in a variety of ways. The tongue pressing through the soft part behind the roof of your mouth is useful and feels like it can actually massage whatever glands might be right there, and this causes a flood of very aromatic saliva... saliva that makes you trip balls.

The production of Amrita is generally considered a rather advanced achievement and plenty of people who do yoga on the regular may never experience it... but I think it is more a matter of focus and cultivation than anything else. One must clear the debris in the central channel and have the ancestral chi rise through the intervening chakras in order to really activate the 3rd eye (Upper Tan Tien in Chi Kung speak). Seeing as most people are rather blocked energetically and have not really activated their lower chakras, it is no wonder this is considered a rare and hard won achievement.


If anyone who is experienced with the mudras that precipitate the secretion of Amrita ever wanted to collect a sample of the stuff and analyze it in a lab, it could be a total game changer.
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#5 Posted : 6/19/2014 9:15:54 PM



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Yeah I believe Rising Spirit also mentioned having experienced this "amrita".

I've had most lower-level DMT-type experiences in meditation many times (although I'd rather call it some kind of 'endo-huasca', since it can be pretty different than just straight DMT and there is definitely a melatonin/harmala feeling as too). But I don't recall having a taste in my mouth. Most of my meditations resemble harmalas more often than DMT though. I think there is evidence that pinoline and other endogenous beta-carbolines are obviously involved there, as melatonin metabolizes into pinoline and production of melatonin is greatly stimulated by meditation....Which makes the aim of these practices to stimulate the 'third eye' very interesting.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15165407
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10876066
http://www.sciencedirect...le/pii/S0301051100000351



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#6 Posted : 6/19/2014 9:59:28 PM

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Thanks for all the great info, y'all's the bees knees! And UniCan I love that term, endo-huasca, that's genius.
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#7 Posted : 6/19/2014 11:35:58 PM

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Actually I get the odd phantom DMT smell about once a day at completely random times for a few days after.

Other people I know have also had the same. Not sure why this is but as soon as I get the smell I'm taken back to thinking of the moment I last breathed in a hit of Changa.
 
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#8 Posted : 6/20/2014 12:44:00 AM

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Iweme wrote:
Actually I get the odd phantom DMT smell about once a day at completely random times for a few days after.




You mean a few days after you smoke some DMT? That's not the case with me, as I haven't touched DMT in two months or so. I think it's a good sign, and encouraging for me to keep meditating. I don't smell it though, it's just in the back of my throat.

I'm going to keep practicing and testing other variables: brushing my teeth just before meditation, not my brushing, etc.
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#9 Posted : 6/20/2014 3:52:59 AM

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Just got done meditating. Happened again, second day in a row, this time accompanied by a large flash of light between my brows (I meditate in a lightproof wooden box I built). I usually see a pinprick of light, but this was a quarter size flash.

Here's the website I got the idea from (and to be clear, I do not feel the magic effects claimed on the site): Enter URL Description. (Couldn't think of anything clever to say)......


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