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Al-Wasi
#1 Posted : 5/25/2014 8:44:11 PM

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Since I started work with this molecule I've come to realize a few things rather quickly. One should not approach this powerful substance on a whim. This has been stated time and time again but it needs repeated, DMT is not a recreational substance, approaching it as such is not recommended.

I figured I would discuss how I prepare for a journey. I did this last time and plan to do so from now on.

1. Ensure that the time is right.
This is an important one for me personally. If I'm not grounded for the day or something just isn't right I can feel it in the air. I generally like to make sure my emotional state is solid, there are no lingering issues going on and I'm basically content. It is also of paramount importance for me that the space I am in is calm and relaxed. Any tension or possible surprises definitely aren't welcome and will be avoided st all costs. If the time isn't right the journey will be postponed.

2. Setting The Intent
Before I begin anything I ask myself why I am doing this. What do I want to learn or experience? What am I trying to gain ? Is it a new perspective ? A spiritual revelation? Help with a problem ? As I weigh the dose and load the vaporizer I begin setting this intent. Speaking it aloud to confirm it.

3. Calming the mind
After the machine is loaded I sit quietly and breathe deeply trying to put any worldly concerns out of my mind. This is also a good time to further establish my intent. Just prior to taking the first hit I generally speak to the spice and ask it to be nice to me. I ask it for what I want out of the experience and also state that I'm willing to let go and accept wherever it takes me to the best of my ability.

Doing these three things have helped my last few journeys to be way more profound then prior trips. I recommend this method or something similar to anyone having trouble letting go in experiences.

At the end of the day we are feeling with a very powerful substance and things probably won't always go as planned. But after a difficult experience this method has helped me in subsequent journeys.

Ultimately give DMT the respect it deserves.
That moment when you wonder if this time you went too far....

Obviously everything discussed here is the fictional accounts of someone with an out there imagination. I mean really could any of these tales be real?
 

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#2 Posted : 5/25/2014 9:10:24 PM

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This person speaks sense,when you become complacent and think its a toy.It will and I repeat it will kick you so hard out hyperspace your next trip will feel it.And maybe your Vape breaksStop
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#3 Posted : 5/25/2014 11:45:10 PM

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philipsbeers wrote:
This person speaks sense,when you become complacent and think its a toy.It will and I repeat it will kick you so hard out hyperspace your next trip will feel it.And maybe your Vape breaksStop


Haha, playing with fire, I have a large amount on hand all the time because i just cant find to do it recreationally, lol. I love that i have "enough" but i keep stock to share with my friends anytime they need some. From what i do is i make my changa, but need to test it cause i always eyeball it, but i manage to hit the nail on the head everytime with doses, friggin awsome! I was listening to "Tribal Seeds" "Harvest Time" during one of these tests, and appriciated the fruits of my labor! It blasted me right to the edge of hyperspace lolVery happy . Judging the amount of smoke to mix of dmt/leaf + length of toke + feeling of come up= right way to judge trip strength. Exhale if it seems its gonna be too strong on come up, belive me, u can feel it.

This magical substance cannot be abused it demands respect from one, and from all.
To continually smoke it without a break (not counting a night session of 3 hrs. straigh)
can and will kick your ass right out of hypersapce if there is no time to integrate the situation you just went through. You just become more confused lol and thats not good.

Good topic, its not a toy, its a privilage, and respect what your givin, even if you did learn it yourself.

Peace my fellow Nexians!
 
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#4 Posted : 5/25/2014 11:51:14 PM

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Its fun none the less, but stressful on the mind under too much stimulation, Moderation is the key word, if you dont feel its the right time, it probably isn't...
 
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#5 Posted : 5/26/2014 6:48:28 PM
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I always do a mini detox, juice fresh fruits, avocado if truly starved. Grain alcohol or a few beers (sometime both) to warm up. Stretch out, get the blood pumping abit, take hot shower, then relax.

I find doing several micro-hits of NMT-DMT over a period of time (sometimes hours) determines how far I will take things. Sometimes I go deep, sometime turn back. Sometime the choice in determined for me. The establishing intent part in many cases takes care of itself when doing this.

One occasion playing online poker, i made a number of trips to my bedroom doing micro-hits of NMT-DMT. On the 4 or 5 trip, with the accumulative effects of NMT obviously noted. I dropped face down on my bed started swimming like a fish for about 20 mins. As every drop of stress exited my body I felt myself physically expanding. The swimming part was not involuntary, I had to do the swimming, but there was a warmth a flow on energy almost visible. I just followed the currents. It felt better then any sex I have ever had. I also said "Thank You" maybe 20-30 times (referring to God, the great unknown, whoever).


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Al-Wasi
#6 Posted : 5/27/2014 12:36:37 AM

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For my next journey I plan on trying another method of smoking the DMT. I've been using the machine but this time I will use the bottle method.
I know some say it is a waste if time but it looks promising if you know how to heat it properly.

Most importantly I am going to do a specific meditation prior to blasting off. Asking the spice to show me what it can and that I will accept where it takes me as best I can.

DMT has reawakened me to Buddhism once again. I studied and practiced it for quite a few years and lost touch with it along the way. I have been reawakened to its path again as a result of my journeys.

It is my opinion that if you approach this substance with the right intent it can work wonders in you.

Look for my next post in regards to integration shortly.

Be safe and journey with purpose.
That moment when you wonder if this time you went too far....

Obviously everything discussed here is the fictional accounts of someone with an out there imagination. I mean really could any of these tales be real?
 
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#7 Posted : 5/27/2014 1:21:05 AM

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wakeup wrote:
For my next journey I plan on trying another method of smoking the DMT. I've been using the machine but this time I will use the bottle method.
I know some say it is a waste if time but it looks promising if you know how to heat it properly.

Most importantly I am going to do a specific meditation prior to blasting off. Asking the spice to show me what it can and that I will accept where it takes me as best I can.

DMT has reawakened me to Buddhism once again. I studied and practiced it for quite a few years and lost touch with it along the way. I have been reawakened to its path again as a result of my journeys.

It is my opinion that if you approach this substance with the right intent it can work wonders in you.

Look for my next post in regards to integration shortly.

Be safe and journey with purpose.

What "bottle method" are you referring to, other than The Machine?
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#8 Posted : 5/27/2014 2:25:50 AM
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I assumed he was talking about cutting the bottom off a plastic bottle, then you tape aluminum foil to it, place the spice in the center of the foil and heat from underneath. Looks amazing, seen this on youtube but cant find the link.
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#9 Posted : 5/27/2014 3:39:18 AM
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wakeup wrote:
For my next journey I plan on trying another method of smoking the DMT. I've been using the machine but this time I will use the bottle method.
I know some say it is a waste if time but it looks promising if you know how to heat it properly.

Most importantly I am going to do a specific meditation prior to blasting off. Asking the spice to show me what it can and that I will accept where it takes me as best I can.

DMT has reawakened me to Buddhism once again. I studied and practiced it for quite a few years and lost touch with it along the way. I have been reawakened to its path again as a result of my journeys.

It is my opinion that if you approach this substance with the right intent it can work wonders in you.

Look for my next post in regards to integration shortly.

Be safe and journey with purpose.


Hi Wakeup,

Have you heard of Adyashanti? His teachings for "true meditation" were very helpful in clearing some things up for me. Namely why "meditative states" always dissipate. Before, I had always done meditations that were for achieving some altered state of consciousness vs. seeing things simply as they are. But it turns out most meditations are about altered states. Of course altered states can be nice and very useful especially when preparing for a DMT trip!
 
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#10 Posted : 5/27/2014 7:19:30 AM

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IANS wrote:
I assumed he was talking about cutting the bottom off a plastic bottle, then you tape aluminum foil to it, place the spice in the center of the foil and heat from underneath. Looks amazing, seen this on youtube but cant find the link.

If this is the case, I would have to agree with the recommendation of "don't even waste your time". The Machine is far more efficient at properly vaporizing spice. Convection > conduction, by a long shot.

The aluminum foil + 2-liter plastic bottle is a lot more likely to leave a person with a lungful of burnt (not vaporized) spice, not to mention whatever byproducts aluminum may or may not produce when used in this manner. In my opinion/experience the 2-liter method is really nothing more a remarkably efficient means of wasting time, effort, and spice.
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#11 Posted : 5/27/2014 9:46:50 AM

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i used to set intent before my journeys but as time has passed i have come to the conclusion that it makes no difference what so ever, i can set intent but i just get blasted into the madness with no correlation what so ever to the intent i tried to set.
I do however meditate to clear my mind, that internal monkey driven monologue goes into turbo mode if i dont shut it up for a while pre-dissolve.

ive done it when im very happy, ive done it when im very sad and ive done it when feeling neutral, non of these mind states made any difference to the experience. The only thing i notice is that i am happier when i get back than when i left.

I know its not the most popular approach but nowadays i just go somewhere nice/safe and blast off. I think that saying it isnt recreational is wrong, i use the Magic in an almost exclusively recreationally way and i dont see that as wrong or disrespectful in any way. i go climbing and regularly put myself in positions where a slip of a foot means that the best outcome is hospital with broken legs, if your lucky, i also class this as recreation.

You can take recreation quite seriously

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For my next journey I plan on trying another method of smoking the DMT. I've been using the machine but this time I will use the bottle method.
I know some say it is a waste if time but it looks promising if you know how to heat it properly.

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#12 Posted : 5/27/2014 10:59:39 AM

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I'm not sure what to think about DMtree and recreation/frequency.

I took about a 2 week break from smoking any of it due to I was uncertain about personal desire, intent, and setting. I felt it calling me a few times, but ignored the call.

When I finally revisited last night, I got yelled at for NOT smoking it....

Apparently I missed an important meeting in hyperspace some time last week...?? Lol. Oops?
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Al-Wasi
#13 Posted : 5/27/2014 3:29:25 PM

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IANS wrote:
I assumed he was talking about cutting the bottom off a plastic bottle, then you tape aluminum foil to it, place the spice in the center of the foil and heat from underneath. Looks amazing, seen this on youtube but cant find the link.

If this is the case, I would have to agree with the recommendation of "don't even waste your time". The Machine is far more efficient at properly vaporizing spice. Convection > conduction, by a long shot.

The aluminum foil + 2-liter plastic bottle is a lot more likely to leave a person with a lungful of burnt (not vaporized) spice, not to mention whatever byproducts aluminum may or may not produce when used in this manner. In my opinion/experience the 2-liter method is really nothing more a remarkably efficient means of wasting time, effort, and spice.


This is exactly what I was talking about. Reason being it seems as if you can prevape the whole dose prior to taking a hit you remove having to worry about proper technique once you start feeling it.

I've found generally by the time I go for hit three I'm so gone I can't figure out how to take the third hit either due to my vision being so insane or not knowing how to breathe anymore. I feel this is what's preventing a breakthrough.

I get how its super easy to burn the dose this way but I feel due to my experience in the past I'll be able to easily vape without burning and hopefully inhale the whole dose in two hits.

I've been told.by many not to.let flame ever touch the mesh in the machine but I cannot get a hit that way. The only way I get big hits from the machine is to pull the flame into the mesh. It never tastes bad or irritates my.lungs so I feel its not burning but I have leather lungs so maybe it just doesn't bother me.

I'm about to get s torch and try placing it to where it almost contacts mesh as I feel this I'd the best method for the machine as you won't be able to pull the flame into the mesh the way you can with s normal flame.

Until I get my gvg. Which will be a while as I can't afford it now. I'm also planning on making changa. Just trying to figure out ratios of DMT to caapi and blue lotus. Also whether or not I should make a 10x caapi or just use normal.caapi leaves.
That moment when you wonder if this time you went too far....

Obviously everything discussed here is the fictional accounts of someone with an out there imagination. I mean really could any of these tales be real?
 
 
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