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sidefx
#1 Posted : 5/21/2014 9:32:13 PM

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After much research i started a while ago Dabling in Urine Therapy.

mainly for the benefits related to the immune system, after becoming very very ill.



i am wondering if anyone has any articles or has read anything about Urine and Ayahuasca.

mainly if it is possible to drink after.

Somewhat like Fly Agaric Mushrooms ?
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#2 Posted : 5/22/2014 1:29:16 AM

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No, DMT is metabolized by MAO into inactive metabolites, so you probably won't get any profound effects.

I don't know how harmaline is metabolized, but a cursory look at it's structure makes me think that it wouldn't survive either. I *have* heard one report of someone who ran a DMT extraction on their urine and got something out of it, but that was never corroborated.

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#3 Posted : 5/22/2014 8:17:37 AM

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Urine therapy? For what?

And no, there´s no way someone will extract their urine and get DMT.. Most DMT will be excreted as indole acetic acid IIRC, and even if there was some DMT it would be so diluted it would be completely unmanageable. No way you get effects from that, and neither enough to extract.

Plus, yuck, imagine the smell of basified piss, lol.

As for harmine and harmaline, they are metabolized into harmol and harmalol by CYP enzymes, which have insignificant MAOI properties.
 
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#4 Posted : 5/22/2014 11:13:04 AM

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endlessness wrote:
Plus, yuck, imagine the smell of basified piss, lol.

*shudders* Sick
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#5 Posted : 5/22/2014 4:04:14 PM

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huh yeah its pretty gross tasting !

but if you cut out most of the unnecessary sugar and salt and drink lots of water before bed it's not too revolting.


huh, after working Night shift for so long; and maybe infections because of it my immune system was really weak and where i was working was a freezer - so lots of sicknesses.
i once had the flu three times in three months and not pussy flues either
like freezing cold Burning sweats coughing up shit, my nose, my head, jesus christ
and then a fungus infection appeared on my finger.

to say Usually i'm a healthy dude Gym lots of water, fruit and veges.
don't smoke ciggies
weed maybe a couple times a month.
Lsd about 5 times a year most
mushies maybe once or twice maybe when its season
not much alcohol, i don't prefer alcohol -never have.
it wasn't my recreational lifestyle that was the cause !!!!


Like that i was told about 'Urine therapy'
and after MUCH RESEARCH & i reiterate MUCH RESEARCH


i decided to give it a try for the sake of my health

and wabbam i started to feel better
have only been sick like once since starting
i do it maybe once every month or every two months
i don't enjoy it that much LoL

my tests came back to prove that my immune system was top notch

It is not per say a "Waste product"
its more like a system of loosing excess nutrients*
It is a product of the kidneys, its directly from the BLOOD STREAM*
Not the stomach or your bowels or liver.
Its is a Blood By-Product*
kidneys.

Like that ^ it contains not only excess vitamins and minerals
But also Old cells from every cellular part of your body!
and cells as we know hold detailed information about where they spent there energy what they were doing -repairing -

our bodies are great at identifying what we ingest and doing all the sorting work.
and our bodies make our cells so they are the easiest to scrutiny.

i think of it as like reading an old letter from yourself

the cells hold information that can be read when passed through the body again.
like infections or deficiencies and problems.

of course there is not too much Scientific research into this because, Really i don't think many *Advanced Western Civilization* wants to promote Drinking Piss lol

or Recycling urine.


but its used by millions around the world.
for many ailments.

has been used for maybe most of human history.
Monks use it.


there is lots of information on the Net to make your own Judgment
I believe it is a health benefit


But having said you still have to Decide


...To Drink or NOt To Drink....
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#6 Posted : 5/22/2014 7:58:02 PM

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I certainly won't tell you what to do, but everything I have read has brought me to the conclusion that urine therapy just brings a whole new meaning to the term "snake oil"... Wink

But if it works for you then more power to you, I suppose.
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