Hi guys , I was recently approached to do a test on Taiwanese ACRB to see if colour and age but mainly colour of the barks had any role in the alkaloid content of the product !

Being a fan of the max-ion TEK I didn't really have to think about what TEK I'd use but being 25g only I went with the hybrid salt TEK ! So this is how I've gone about the experiment so far if anyone has any advice I'd love to hear it ??

I was given three 25g samples of Taiwanese ACRB , type A was a median to dark red colour with a hint of a pink tone !

type B was a plain lighter tan colour

type C , was darker similar to type A but without the pink tone !

No other info was given at this point in time ,

now I have placed three empty 500ml bottles side by side 25g in each I've placed 150ml water with hydrochloric acid with a total ph of 1.9 .
Now I've placed the said bottles in a bath for 1 1/2 hours but only one hour has passed so far any help or advice would be appreciated !!



Edit ; ok acidifying is over ,

Salting !!! Place 300ml water with 60g salt dissolved then poured 100ml in each bottle ,, then placed 300ml water with 55g
caustic soda stored till dissolved , then poured 100ml in each bottle , measured ph and it's on a steady 12.8 for all 3 give or take a .01 ,,

then mixed them, then warm bath for 2 hours ! Before pulling I topped up with water and left just enough room for 30-40 ml of shellite !!

Ok basifying is over I did four hot - warm pulls on room temp soup of 30ml on each bottle with diggers shellite won't no much more till tomorrow , so I will post results and photos on each step just to document it all !!

Ok results so far type A 380mg = 1.52%

Type B 282mg = 1.12%

Type C 312mg = 1.24%

Any side by side experiment is always appreciated, it makes us evolve as a community, so thanks for that

No special tips except try to keep all other variables the same to make a valid comparison.

Good luck!

Thank you Endlessness , I've tried my best at keeping every thing identical down to ph , temp , weights and fluids , but I'll just wait and see , not that it's gunna show great significant differences with 25g , but the thing is I don't know anything about the barks which is exciting !!

Hope you took pics of the colour differences.

Most important part , yes but there not of great quality !!

Sorry about photo quality of the colour but it's the only photo I took and I can't go backwards and change it !! And yes I do no the importance of that part of the experiment was the whole point if it to biggin with , but my harvester has the barks at his place and I'll get him to email me a photo of the differant colours to show those who are interested in the process !!

AS much as I do appreciate your experimental efforts here (and I sincerely do), I feel like I should point out that the bottles you are using appear to be plastic water/soda bottles. It is not advised to use plastic vessels and instruments that will come into contact with naphtha as the naphtha could degrade the plastic, leaving contaminants in the naphtha and therefore potentially in your final product.

Glass is always the safest bet.

I agree whole heartedly Entheogenerator !
But I didn't have suitable equipment and it's more of a backyard experiment so to speak as I've no lab experiance or lab equipment other then my glassware I use for my own extractions , this was just to see if colour and age had any significant effect on the plant oils / fats and total yeild and I was quite surprised buy the result just buy eye but total weight is yet to be done !!!

Total weights and percentage posted on OP !

If you only soaked for 1 1/2 hours(not boiled) the hcl solution, then the low yield could be coming from that. I would recommend a 1 day soak, with intermittent stirring or shaking as much as possible. It's also going to depend on how well your bark was powdered. Was it with a hammer mill, or some inferior technique that leaves much larger pieces? ACRB is notoriously hard bark, much more so than MHRB

What do you mean? , low yield.
Those figures are exactly what one would expect from Acrb. 1-1.5% is entirely normal for that bark.

Nice work EW...interesting experiment. You seem to have got your bark issues sorted now.

Yes thank you Cyb I've got it all pretty well down to science so to speak after a lot of extractions under my belt now , as I find it very relaxing and rewarding , as my wife referes to it as my mistris haha