For the record, my first time astral travelling experience that had clear DMT characteristics is discussed here:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&m=514504

This time there were no aliens, so I got a chance to calmly explore the area. It was pretty early morning and I just woke up or became conscious still lying in my bed and a few seconds later this DMT tone started ringing in my ears, I could even feel it as if it was triggered by some physical stimulus right behind my ear drums. The tone was similar to this one by its aggressiveness and frequency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suAUjBP59_A
I can also say that the tone was very similar to grenade explosion tone that is sometimes used in movies.

Then I did the first thing I've always done when having entered the hyperspace -- I looked at my hands and HOLY SHIT, they were totally DMT hands, I was in the very same room and my view was as clear as it becomes in the hyperspace. I got a little scared because my last DMT experiences were totally doom and gloom, but this time I knew that I can wake up if I wanted. I have previously forcefully ended many of my astral travel experiences by strongly intending it just to make sure that I can do it if I really wanted. So, I decided to look around.

I immediately thought that I'm going to write about this in DMT Nexus, it is cool to think of it that these thoughts occurred fully consciously while astral travelling and having this strong DMT vibe. I then started to periodically look at my own hands because I recalled from Carlos Castaneda's writings that one should do that in order to keep his assembly point fixed while dreaming. It actually worked for me, my hands were so cool, the fingers were long and super polished as DMT normally does but I also had like 5 differently coloured rings on my fingers. Some fingers were so long that they had several rings at different joints of the fingers. I'm speaking of rings that are known to us as jewellery.

I kept waking up and returning to my physical body in my bed but the experience reoccurred periodically in small time intervals. However, the hard DMT tone in my ears only occurred once at the very first time I became conscious in the morning. Later it was gone and although what I saw was very DMT-ish I did no longer have the specific (very light, having no inertia when moving your limbs) body feel that occurs under the influence of vaped DMT. I kept looking at my hands periodically but not too much as according to Castaneda, this should only be done when the surroundings start to fade away and/or morph into something else.

So, the bottom line is: you can access the hyperspace without delivering DMT to your system by the ordinary means. However, the experience is obviously a bit different because you're astral travelling and some extra stuff such as swapping dimensions and flying is possible there.

Very cool read.

Ive had 2 experiences so far, but Im such a heavy sleeper that when I usually wake up Im ready to get up.

Do you feel like youre being sucked out of your body when you project? Or can you step out slowly and control from there. My first experience I was very groggily half asleep and was in a strangeish dream state that I wasnt actively navigating so to say, it was like a normal dream, and I suddenly realized my bed was in a different spot of my room and I was seeing this from above my bed, and suddenly it was like I realized it and tried to wake up fully but couldnt move and it felt like I was being sucked out of my body and I also got that carrier wave tone that started as a low hum and got progressively more intense and loud. I was able to snap out of that after about 3 seconds. it didnt scare me, but I was just like holy poop that was intense.

2nd time was actually like 2 days ago, I felt like again I heard the tone and was half asleepish sort of still, and I opened my eyes and it was like I knew I wanted to do it, I hyper focused on one point in my room and literally felt like I was able to jump out of my body, but again, for whatever reason, it was like my astral self was like nopenopenopenope and jumped right back in and I snapped out of it.

Yes, I was forcefully sucked out of my body when the grey aliens pulled me over and that has been the only time. Other times have been like that:

90% of times - I lie in the bed, waiting to either fall asleep or go astral and then I suddenly start to feel as if I was floating and realize that I'm now in the astral reality. The transition here is very smooth, like instead of falling asleep and losing your consciousness you suddenly discover yourself in the astral world as if you have taken a drug and been waiting for it to kick in until it happens.

6% of times - I was previously sleeping and normal dreaming but instead of waking up in my physical body I wake up next to my physical body in my room, realizing that I have transitioned myself from a normal dream world to the astral reality. I remember a specific time that was very scary: I was dreaming that I was at a shore of an ocean and then a humongous end-of-the-world-size wave came and it swallowed me like a little ant, I felt the salty ocean water in my mouth and lungs and thought "that's the moment, I'm going to die and there's nothing I can do about it." It made me very rebellious and I felt as if I refused to die. The latter made me wake up near my sleeping physical body in my exact room. I was scared shitless that I might have died during a sleep and now I'm seeing my dead body, being a spirit. I got super scared and tried my best to wake up by very strongly intending it - I managed to wake up in my physical body and was super happy to be alive

4% of times - I become conscious in the middle of a normal dream, not waking up near my physical body, but knowing that it's the astral realm, except a much higher layer (farther from the physical reality). One may argue that I'm just experiencing lucid dreaming in these cases but I'd say there's a slight difference.

By now I can say that I have encountered succubi in my dreams too. This one time I was taking a bath with some woman whose face I wasn't able to see but she was naked. Then I used my free will to allow her to come to have sex with me. She did but it was not sex that she started doing. She was shaking electrically fast as if you would fast forward a porn movie and I felt as if my heart would stop if she continued, not pleasurable at all. I pushed her away, and this was a conscious decision although I wasn't aware that I was sleeping. Then I woke up. Some crazy shit happens in the dream world. Lately I was able to have a dialogue with some entity in my room - it had the exact voice of my father - and it talked very friendlily to me that if I say to my astral twin that he's ugly, it would turn me beautiful and if I told him that he's beautiful, it would turn me ugly. My astral twin that moment was like another me whose 3-dimensional image I was observing while having the dialogue with the entity that had my father's voice.

For a record, I haven't taken external DMT into my system since the December and I strangely no longer feel that I ever want to do it again. My past DMT trips were so intense, so utterly alien and disturbing that I wished I hadn't taken DMT at all and promised myself to never do it again if only it would deliver me back to my everyday world, safe and sound. The feeling I got was like a near death experience or something, making me realize how much I love my everyday reality and that I cannot risk losing it. The saying that "you will always come back, don't worry" becomes bullshit if you consider this scenario:
1. you don't come back, but instead go somewhere else
2. something else comes back instead of you

This theory cannot be pushed over because it's like death, you can't come back to talk about it. I might experiment with DMT in the future when I feel as if I could take the risk of not coming back, but right now I have more important/interesting things to do in this everyday reality.

Hyena are you afraid of not physically coming back like you die in real life from a DMT trip? Or do you mean not mentally coming back where your kind of stuck in a never ending perma trip?
I have not really heard of both ever. The only thing I have heard is people who had pre existing mental troubles and was made worse by the effects of DMT.

Very interesting, I wish I could be a fly on the wall during your astral projections. Sounds pretty interesting. I am such a heavy sleeper, Id say I can recall only about 1% of my dreams. Id love to be able to lucid dream and then truly learn how to astral project. But every time I try, I just totally conk out cold and then wake up 6 or 7 or whatever hours later haha

I'm afraid that some crazy undocumented shit might happen because we don't really know for sure that there is such thing like the "real life" to come back to.

Consider this scenario:
You take a heroic dose of vaped DMT. Everything goes so crazy that you completely lose all touch with the reality as you know it. When the trip starts to fade off you experience birth and on the next moment you are born as a baby. During the process you understand that you don't have to physically die for anyone anywhere, you just cease to exist as if you were never born. Other bad scenario would be going to somewhere completely else, getting stuck in the inorganic universe or being born in another universe. This is all theoretical possibilities once you get liberal enough to really understand that we have no proof to push these scenarios over. We know so little about this universe that all kinds of weird things could be possible.

What if nothing really happened before you were born? What if the history they teach you in school was actually pre generated by the giant computer of the universe, setting up a scene for you to enter seamlessly and start experiencing this life?

TLDR: Yes, I'm afraid of not physically coming back. That does not mean that my essence would die but that I go somewhere else and I cannot come back. If DMT wants to deliver you the experience that you would not like then it will find its way, no matter what you prepare yourself for. If you are really really bad ass though guy not afraid of anything ever then maybe DMT will make you experience being eternally stuck in the hyperspace, having the time frozen, and when you feel as if you were 1000 years there, the trip gets over and you realize that you will NEVER DO IT AGAIN.

Ok Hyena I gotcha. I guess the difference between me and you is the trust I have with the molecule.( not saying if you don't have trust it's bad because we really don't know much about it) When you say if DMT wants to deliver you an experience you will not like then it will find it's way. I believe that that experience is actually good for you even if on the surface it looks bad. I have trust in the molecule that occasional use is very good for me. There's no reason to take a heroic dose if you feel like your not ready and you actually don't ever have to do a large amount. Your one time may very well be all you need from DMT.

Food for thought I guess. Ha

Yes, I agree with you. DMT is the goddess of psychedelics and even though she can be a cruel goddess sometimes it is for the user's own good. For example, from my "bad" experiences I have literally learned that how other people feel themselves in the room affects the visuals of MY TRIP. So I'd want to be super careful of what I say here and there so that I wouldn't ruin other people's mood as it would ruin my own experience too for some magical reason. The bad trips somehow balance things out, keeping me from abusing DMT by vaping it casually like tobacco smokers do .

New astral travel experience, happened yesterday:
I was taking a nap in the middle of the day and suddenly green and yellow lights flashed in front of my eyes. Usually it's blue so this was something new and already got me excited. The next moment I discover myself in the toilet and I realize that I must be astral travelling because my body felt very light and to move around I had to use my intent instead of motor skills and muscles. The experience was already different than what I have ever had. Everything was so clear, every detail. However, my field of vision was acting differently than what we are used to. I was not able to observe things directly because then I saw them from a fish eye. Instead, I had to look everything from the corner of my eye, tilting my head a bit and then it was just perfect, although unintuitive. I went to the next room and I saw a woman, a man and a baby in the other room. The woman was sitting on the floor, the man was next to her on the couch with the baby lying next to him. They were talking like normal people do who think they are in private. They were almost naked and at some point the female committed the act of masturbation (perhaps jokingly) and then they talked something about it jokingly. I was super amazed and I knew they didn't see me so I started to wonder who I am and where I am. I turned away, trying to fix the fish eye problem by strongly intending it but it didn't work. When I decided to enter that room and see what would happen there was some guy at the door, looking inside the room so I was not able to clearly see the room nor enter it easily. I had to stop near the guy and he noticed me, asking "are you okey?" with a worried tone. I answered "no" just to see what happens and then he asked someone to bring me sedative medicine. Everything started to fade away and I woke up in my bed.

Had this been a normal dream, it would be nothing special, I guess. However, during the experience at some point I felt myself exactly as if I was observing everything from a hidden camera in a real life situation. I wonder if I actually visited someone's apartment or maybe possessed someone's pet? The latter would explain the problems with the fish eye vision. For example, a crow would have to turn its head to observe something in particular because its eyes are on the sides.