I've read it several times, and there's a recent post about a guy filling a 2 liter with smoke and taking the hit.

I want to do this method but without foil and without heating the plastic.

Any ideas? I currently use the vinegar bottle machine with the pointed cap. It works, trust me it works. But sometimes it just takes a lot of hits. Which I feel ultimately reduces the duration of my break through.

So yes I can drill glass or whatever else is needed (can't weld).

Links or comment - I'd be deeply grateful for either
(even if you say it's stupid)

Ten words...

GVG

That is all.

A gravity/bucket bong? Use a spanner socket in the end of the bottle and multiple screens covered in ash.

I'm with anrchy.

I don't know what your machine looks like but perhaps it's too small, has little airflow or something. You mention foil and plastic- if you're using these to vape spice I would move onto something else.

Personally I think pipes are fine, and with something inert to hold the spice such as ceramic with a nice volume, the GVG, (whilst I still think is pricey for what you get) is a good choice.

I still prefer a bong though. Vape 25+ mg of clean spice into a dense cloud filling up a litre of space and empty your lungs. Fill them with the contents of the bong and hold it approximately forever.

Steel or copper scrubber pads make good conductive substrates, ceramic is nice because it's fully inert. Enhanced leaf/changa may also be a good substrate depending on how fast it vapes, I haven't tried to break through that way yet.

But no aluminium or plastic, for the sake of your health.

You should always try to break through as effortlessly and as cleanly as possible IMO, but I am somewhat of a connoisseur/nazi.

Now that is some good advice.

Nooooo lol. I don't use plastic or foil. But this guy's method was he heated his foil and filled a 2 liter with smoke. Then sucked it in. I've read elsewhere of other people doing this.

I'm curious if I can create something like this... But a tad bit more safe.

Like I said just use a spanner socket and and screens instead of foil.
Cut bottom off 2 litre bottle place socket in top with screens in. Place bottle in bucket up to neck. Put spice in top and vapourise while pulling bottle up.
Remove socket exhale all air then place mouth over end of bottle, then push down onto bottle and breathe in and expect to be in hyperspace VERY soon.

Two words. : bad idea

I cant imagine what could go wrong with DMT buckets

if you choose that ROA prepare yourself, topherfoster.

i tried this method it doesnt work realy well and there is good reason for this.
My idea is that dmt should never heated with directly touching fire. Half of your spice will die just for that reason. There should be at least a glass or something other that protect the spice from strong heat and helps to heat evenly.

I don't see why it wouldnt work perfectly, its the same as putting changa/infused herb in a bong, you just kiss the herb with the lighter and let the cherry do the rest.

I think DMT buckets would be savagely effective

Gravity bongs are good for one thing imo getting high on weed. But even then they're hard to work with, often cause splashing and are more for the bored stoner and his friends to mess around with than anything.

Build a better machine, or just stuff some chore boy steel mesh (you can find it at any major retail store) into a medium sized marijuana pipe, then melt your space deep into the mesh (take your time so you don't burn it) Then keep your lighter just above the steel mesh in your pipe and slowly draw (if you melted your spice reasonably deep enough you'll never burn a thing). Or as someone I know likes to do, invert the pipe so the bowl is facing down (just make sure the mesh isn't going to pop out of the bowl) and hold your lighter underneath that.

Perfect this technique and there will never be a need for the GVG. Though the more experienced you become the more you realize how having everything nice and perfect can really enhance things.....thats where i'd say the GVG comes in. But try this first. If you find that sweet spot between how hard to suck and where to hold the lighter...you'll be gone before you know it

Haha yeah not for the non-smoker or feint hearted although I imagine you probably wouldn't have much time to get anxious.
It does have a good safety factor in that once you've inhaled you can just drop the bottle and lay back.

I love my vaporizing water bong.. but i think i understand why the VG works so good...

It apears to me that the little VG pipe quickly delivers pure vapor alowing one to get more vapor with less air causing more room in lungs for concintrated vapor..
and that causes better effect?

With my water bong you get the health protection of cooling and water filtration causing any airborn particles to get traped in the water not your lungs..

But the downside to a bong is you get a lot of air with the vapor filling your lungs quicker causing one to have to take two and three hits to get it all...

I was thinking about this this afternoon and am making a smaller bong to compress the vapor more with less room for air causing a more concertrated hit...

I wonder if water takes any dmy away from my hits????

Had the same thought, surely some of the dmt must cool and suspend in the water? The majority must be pulled into the chamber by the force of suction but some must get caught by the water. Small price to pay for extra filtration.

Changa in the bonga!!! If the changa is strong enough anyways. So make it strong enough.

This video will give you a idea how to achieve one breath... lol

http://youtu.be/FJy74DKlTV0 (BKS Iyengar demonstrating Pranayama)

I tryed my smaller red water bong in photos above ..and it bonged me good!!
I think it helped to ..[compress the vapor].. in smaller area. in smaller red bong!

The pipe already had 30mgs of ..dryed I [acacia tincher].. but added just a tiny amount of this orangeish yellow wax i got from evaporating a napatha pull that sat for three weeks in jar...
It was like supercharging the bowl!
I think the acacia wax was a .[very strong].. adition to the 30mgs ..acacia tincher already dryed in the wet pad...
When it it it hit me ..[very intensly] much like mimosa would and my open eye visuals were really moving and very noticable plastic like look..
When I came up it was fast and mercyless with a buzzing ..it was like i came up and hit a brick wall!
Photos below..of my smaller red water bong and the yellow waxy product after b evaporation..

Straight to the point! For the last 2 years i`ve tried various devices and came to the same conclusion. Right now i use glass pipe similar to 'Bat VG', one big hit and i there. I love it!