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Operculum
#1 Posted : 3/25/2014 7:29:14 PM
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So i went over to my friends house last night with my GVG, spice, and some Rue Seeds. He has never tried any psychedelic before and me being the crazy bastard I am, encouraged him to try spice just once.

Well he drank 3 grams of Rue tea mixed with honey. 30 mins later he is feeling the effects, then we load the GVG and he takes a hit. He said he was in and our of the room we were in. We had another friend with us as well. He said he couldn't believe his eyes what he was seeing. He said he saw the tattoo of my friend's dragon fly out of the TV and the dragon had my friends smile. The trip lasted only a few minutes.

Shortly after coming down, he was ready for another hit. In retrospect, I loaded FAR to big a hit for him this 2nd go around. He took it, and at first he was enjoying it. He then slid off the couch and laid on the floor. He started writhing and twisting on the floor. He looked like he was in pain. He kept holding his head and saying "ouch". He started making infantile sounds of a baby whimpering. This lasted for a solid 20 minutes. (the rue tea was definitely working). He said at one point, he looked up at the dog in the room, and the dog lost all of its hair, it was skinny, and deprived on food. The dog, he said, looked like a dog from resident evil. The trip eventually faded. There for a while, our friend was lying on the ground unable to talk. Strangely enough, he wanted a 3rd hit right after...

I handed him the GVG and he took his 3rd hit. He blasted off, this time laying back and smiling. He kept uttering the word, Purple....purple....purple. This trip did not last as long.


After everything was over, my friend who blasted off and I went to the gas station. My friend told me that during his 1st trip, everytime i laughed, he heard me laughing and it made him feel crazy silly in a good way.

He told me that during the 2nd trip, it started out really nice for the first 5 seconds, then he felt as if he descended into hell. He said he could not make out the creature visually very well...he described just seeing a large black being outlined. He said that it was EXTREMELY hostile and that he was fighting for his life against it. He said that it was hurting his body all over. He said it was psychic-ly trying to destroy him. He said that after the event, he felt he came out the winner. He said the creature was beyond even anything in horror movies. (i wonder if this creature he encountered was Opti)....

Is this being similar to Stephen Kings IT?...the evil mocking clown pennywise?

I just dont know...whatever it was, it was so terrible that i was scared just looking at my friend rolling on the floor. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. However, i was shocked that he was ready for a 3rd go at hyperspace immediately after his hellish 2nd experience.

He said his 3rd go, he went into a very bright room with red and white colors...he was sitting on a lounge chair, and he felt the same feeling of being on a beach with his new Girlfriend. He said that the 3rd time he went, he felt as if his soul was placed in a new body...

very interesting...he handled the experiences like a champ...i filled his gas tank afterwards for being such a beast in hyperspace.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/25/2014 8:46:57 PM

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Nice, I can't wait to get some more Syrian rue. Ive used it for mushrooms in the past but not smoking dmt. Indeed your friend is a champion. The whole story kinda reminds of when jacob wrestles with god.

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#3 Posted : 3/26/2014 2:45:49 AM

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Operculum wrote:
In retrospect, I loaded FAR to big a hit for him this 2nd go around.

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#4 Posted : 3/26/2014 2:57:15 AM

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Personally I am very careful about dosing people. They could have a very difficult trip and end up needing a long time to integrate their experience. This can be a bad thing when done to the wrong people.

I am glad it went well and it sounds like your friends dealt with it properly. Although I would exercise caution from now on. Its not a toy.
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#5 Posted : 3/26/2014 3:12:35 AM
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I agree, i will be a lot more careful from now on.
 
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#6 Posted : 3/26/2014 12:32:26 PM
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Wow, it is hard to imagine how reality shattering an experience like that must be, to go straight to drinking rue and vaping large doses of DMT on that with no prior mind expanding experience. As above I agree you should consider being more careful in the future.

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#7 Posted : 3/26/2014 3:27:46 PM
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I feel wrong and cruel for having thrown my friend into shark infested waters like that. I feel my actions show a reflection of my character. I feel as if I am just a kid playing with something much more powerful than I realize...I think I will take some time away from Spice (again) and look inside myself for a while...I had good intentions but that doesn't excuse my recklessness. I'm just glad my friend made it out fine. Honestly, had that been me, I would probably be in a psyche ward. I could barely handle a very minor minor minor hyperslap. I couldn't imagine what would happen to me had I gone through what my friend went through...
 
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#8 Posted : 3/27/2014 2:05:11 AM

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Operculum wrote:
I feel wrong and cruel for having thrown my friend into shark infested waters like that. I feel my actions show a reflection of my character. I feel as if I am just a kid playing with something much more powerful than I realize...I think I will take some time away from Spice (again) and look inside myself for a while...I had good intentions but that doesn't excuse my recklessness. I'm just glad my friend made it out fine. Honestly, had that been me, I would probably be in a psyche ward. I could barely handle a very minor minor minor hyperslap. I couldn't imagine what would happen to me had I gone through what my friend went through...



Operculum,

We are all muddling through our experiences. It's not like we have grandfather to take us into the jungle and blow tobacco smoke over us for our first time. That's why when I am introducing people to spice, I tend to describe the potential for experiences like the one your friend had first, before the celestial-transcendent-beauty-sell, because it happens, and it's only ethical to fully disclose the power of this substance.

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#9 Posted : 3/27/2014 2:10:13 AM

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I always educate those I dose on all the most important information if they hadn't chose to do so themselves. Not to say that in the beginning there were a couple similar situations I found myself in.

Just like life we learn from our mistakes and attempt to help keep others from making the same ones.
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#10 Posted : 3/27/2014 3:33:15 AM
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If I don't smoke weed when I venture spice, I'll twist up and look weird. My legs will cross and twist, my thumb will slide around between my fingers and such. My arms may even twist... Not sure why.

Is that what he looked like by any chance?

Ive come out of trips looking at myself like wtf...
 
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#11 Posted : 3/30/2014 6:46:11 PM

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It seems like the spice gives one exactly the experience that they require for further spiritual growth. Every dose is exactly the right amount whether you measure it or not, but you should measure it, LOL.
Your friend needed to encounter that horrifying hyper-dimensional being, for some reason, perhaps beyond the realm of human understanding.
 
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#12 Posted : 3/30/2014 8:06:58 PM
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Each time i find i must approach spice with more respect than i did tha last time
 
 
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