SWIM's also using a different seed vender this time. But toxins aside there was way more orangey residue than SWIM cared for.

Xylene to be heated outside

Also, the first time I did this, I tried to evap the D-limonene & keep everything except the dark crap that was stuck to the beaker.
But it never got that much cleaner that way.
Now I decant off the extra D-Limo after it cools & just keep the stuff that precipitates out. Lotsa oils in that liquid ya know...

WS

yeah man make sure you have good seeds before you waste any time.

my seeds were reall low quality. like. not even worth it. i hardly got any bufo out...


however i did extract something that turned out to be a great mood enhancer/ motivational drug.

no idea what it is, just snorted a bunch of black soot that i made after toasting an acid base extraction done with hcl sodium carbonate and mek.

minor visuals so im guessing it was just a low dose of bufo but if thats true then DAMN strong bufo is gonna be rediculously euphoric

Yeah it's all about the seeds. SWIM'll just have to shop around I guess. Unless someone can PM me a good vender the ships internationally that I can bring to SWIMs attention?

As acetone seems to pick a lot of stuff from seeds, if bufotenine is not soluble in aciditic acetone, could it be used to wash the seeds prior to basify them ?
Is it that simple or do I miss something ?

Yup. SWIM's doing it right now.

He grinds seeds and then puts them in the oven for a couple of hours while he keeps his acetone in the fridge. Then he washes the beans through a few times, dry then basify.

did anyone see my post on page 10 ?

You would probably need to grind them up first, so that as much of (the insides of) the seeds are exposed to the acetone, not just the outside of the seeds, or the seed coats.

Let us know how that works, sounds feasible!

WS

The bufotenine salt in the seeds is insoluble in acetone.

So what Garulfo is suggesting is probably a good idea then, right?

WS

Yeah.

Should one be surprised if when they base the material for the first time the ammonia smeel isn't as strong as expected?

The seeds were toasted and defatted and the roasted smell seems to be dominant in the mix.



Edit: Actually SWIM's checked the ph and it's around 8. Added more Sodium carbonate but the ph won't go any higher.

Any suggestions?

2nd Edit. SWIM made 200ml of sodium carbonate solution that read at just over ph11, then poured this on the mix and the ph is still 8

It usually smells kind of like peanuts to me, until the bulk of the plant material & toxins are cleaned out.

It's a strange scent, not necessarily bad, but not nice either...

WS

Yeah first time SWIM did the extraction he noticed the peanutty smell, but when basing he noticed a strong ammonia smell. This time that's not there... the peanut smell was though. He did lots of acetone washes and heating before basing. These beans don't look as healthy as the last one's so he's not holding his breath. But there are a fair few fumarate salts.

Wait and see I guess.

SWIM acquired some 95% limonene after his 90% didn't seem all that ideal for this tek.

When preteating the new limonene with heat, he is realising that it is taking longer to get to a boil.

Could impurities really lower the boiling point?

He's guessing now that he didn't heat the first limonene enough in both temperature and duration...

I guess he just wants it TOO much.

God he really does.

You should pick up a espresso thermometer (around $5-$10) at the grocery store & heat it to around 320-350F degrees for around 5 minutes. bringing it to a full boil pulls some extra oils & others have said it burns something in the D-Limo too.

Using the High Purity D-Limonene made a big difference in how clean & dry the resulting extract came out after use for me.


WS

Dude... you would not believe how much stuff comes out of the seeds this way. I guess it depends on the seeds really, but SWIM ran about 600ml of acetone over the seeds before he got bored... even then it was still a little yellow, but SWIM doesn't really want to be spending a fortune on acetone. But his collective acetone washes were a very dark amber. His first fumerate salts look a little whiter than what he got from better seeds that weren't washed.

SWIM's curious to know how washing the seeds before basify differs in effect to an acetone wash on the fumerate salts? I understand that fumaric acid forms quite strong bonds with alkaloids. Is this correct?

But it he could do the same thing effectively on a smaller volume he could save a lot of acetone.

Maybe there's a more suitable acid one can use to aquire cebil alkaloids in a smaller volume than seed form that releases more toxins to acetone than fumerates would?

Indeed hard to say.
On the other hand, working on small amounts is easier but it's also easier to lost a lot of yield...

D-Limonene? Just incredible, genius to use this subtance. Will it work on extracting other Tryptamines? I.e. for a DMT extraction?

It's cool for DMT acid states.. except fumerate I think. Not great for freebase because it doesn't evap nicely.





Is the amount of fumerate salts you get on the first FASA a good indication of how potent the seeds are? Or would it only indicate this if the fumerate salts were very white?