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#1 Posted : 3/9/2014 1:42:58 PM

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TAMPA, Fl. (Reuters) - A pregnant woman and her family were hospitalized this week after eating steak bought from a Wal-Mart that local authorities believed was laced with the hallucinogenic drug LSD, according to the medical examiner's initial test results.

A blue balloon announcing "Baby Boy" fluttered on Saturday outside the home where the family has since returned after Jessica Rosado, who was nine months pregnant when she arrived at the hospital near her home in Tampa, gave birth after having labor induced.

Rosado, her partner Ronnie Morales and her two young daughters fell ill on Monday evening after eating some bottom round steak bought from a local Wal-Mart, according to the Tampa Police Department.

It was the first meal they had cooked in their new home having moved in two days earlier, police said.

Morales was the first to feel sick, and Rosado drove him and her daughters to St Joseph's Hospital after calling 911. He arrived hallucinating and feeling dizzy and short of breath.

Rosado then began displaying the same symptoms, and was taken to a hospital across the street where labor was induced and her baby delivered. The two daughters, ages 6 and 7, were sickened a little later that evening.

Police took samples of the food the family had been eating from the home. The Hillsborough County medical examiner's office told police on Friday that the steak was contaminated, and that tests showed the presence of lysergic acid diethylamide, or LSD, police said.

Police also took the family's oven away for testing. Results from toxicology tests on blood samples taken from the family may take another three weeks, police said.

"There was enough of some type of substance to make all four members of that family gravely ill," Jane Castor, Tampa's police chief, told a press conference on Friday. "The family has no idea where this may have come from."

She said that police had taken all the other bottom round steaks from the Wal-Mart for testing but that this was believed to be an isolated case, and that it was not clear whether a crime had been committed.

LSD is a fragile chemical, and can quickly degrade even at room temperature or when exposed to light. If the test results are correct, it remained unclear how a steak might be dosed with LSD in a way that it could retain its potency even when cooked.

Police said they were still investigating how or why a steak might end up contaminated in this way.

Wal-Mart said it was cooperating with the investigation by police and both federal and state agricultural officials. A spokeswoman pointed out that Wal-Mart receives its meat already prepared and packaged from suppliers, and it was unclear at what point contamination might have taken place.

Morales and the daughters were released from the hospital on Wednesday, and Rosado and her newborn son, whom police described as healthy, were released on Thursday.

"We're just very grateful that the family appears to be OK," Dianna Gee, the Wal-Mart spokeswoman, said.

(Writing by Jonathan Allen; Editing by Barbara Goldberg and Marguerita Choy)
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#2 Posted : 3/9/2014 2:54:35 PM

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1. You beat me to posting the story [what a crazy story]. Family Eats LSD-Tainted Meat, Goes Home With a New Brother

2. Some meat packager is Breaking Bad.
 
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#3 Posted : 3/9/2014 3:13:16 PM

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I love the verbage they use.... "sickened."

I would hardly consider that state "sickened," but that's just me.

Glad the baby was okay!
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Tampa area Wal-Mart...check

Bottom round...check

LSD...check

"Hey honey, I'm going to run to the store. If I'm lucky I'll be back in about 12 hours." Very happy

This makes me wonder though, is LSD heat-stable enough to withstand cooking?
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#5 Posted : 3/9/2014 3:56:06 PM

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Tampa area Wal-Mart...check

Bottom round...check

LSD...check

"Hey honey, I'm going to run to the store. If I'm lucky I'll be back in about 12 hours." Very happy

This makes me wonder though, is LSD heat-stable enough to withstand cooking?

I don't think LSD would survive for very long if cooked. Maybe it's not lsd at all but some other more stable psychedelic compound, or maybe the dose was much higher originally and most of the lsd was destroyed during cooking so only a small amount (but enough for a tripp)was left.
 
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#6 Posted : 3/9/2014 4:55:03 PM

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Ancotar wrote:
I love the verbage they use.... "sickened."

I would hardly consider that state "sickened," but that's just me.


Are you kidding? If it's forced upon you (and your 6 and 7 year olds) completely unsuspecting? I think "sickened" is a perfectly accurate descriptor.

Whoever did this really needs to be going to prison.

 
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Ancotar wrote:
I love the verbage they use.... "sickened."

I would hardly consider that state "sickened," but that's just me.


Are you kidding? If it's forced upon you (and your 6 and 7 year olds) completely unsuspecting? I think "sickened" is a perfectly accurate descriptor.

Whoever did this really needs to be going to prison.


I agree. I would imagine the state produced by intentionally ingesting LSD is very different than the state produced by unknowingly ingesting the compound, in an unknown quantity, for what is likely the first (and probably last) time in the victim's life.
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#8 Posted : 3/9/2014 8:10:11 PM

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Acotar wrote:
LSD is a fragile chemical, and can quickly degrade even at room temperature or when exposed to light. If the test results are correct, it remained unclear how a steak might be dosed with LSD in a way that it could retain its potency even when cooked.

I would completely beleive this to be another LSD framing case really involving another drug if it didnt come up in lab results, so long as those are reliable. It is pretty unbelievable that lsd would remain active through the cooking process, but I suppose it could be possible if the steak was injected with a solution containing the drug and then only cooked, say, medium rare opposed to fully cooked. Sad story, just more bad press for LSD.

I agree with Art, and while I think "gravely ill" is a bit of a stretch, the family definitly has my sympathy.
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Whoever did this is truly sick amd should go to jail. I think dosing someone without their knowledge is one of the worst things u could almost possibly do to someone. To me this really proves psychedelics are not meant for everyone this person had obviously became deranged. I wonder why steak though and not something that is not cooked to inject the drug into hmm.
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Police said they were still investigating how or why a steak might end up contaminated in this way.


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In all seriousness though, that's really awful. It's unfortunate how these kinds of rare occurrences can be taken so out of context. Granted there's a lot of good press out there right now regarding LSD and psychedelics in general. Even Fox news has a reporter who specializes in botany and medicine, and he's written a few articles about aya, lsd, and I think maybe mescaline.
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The long cooking time (I wonder, how was the electric steak cooked) seems to me to be more than enough to destroy the LSD. But that's just a guess, not really an educated opinion.

I've been wondering if the steak was dosed POST cooking, and there is something more to this than we are seeing now. (raising eyebrow in suspicious gesture...)

And yes, ghost dosing is a horribly irresponsible and dangerous thing to do. I remember hearing about people at shows that would put a LSD/DMSO mix in squirt guns and dose people that way. Even among a crowd like a bunch of heads, it's criminal, on several levels.

EDIT: upon consideration-what if cows have come up with an evolutionary advancement- to secrete LSD so that people become enlightened upon consumption and no longer eat them? Nevermind, I've dosed hundreds of times and still eat them. But not as much.
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null24 wrote:
The long cooking time (I wonder, how was the electric steak cooked) seems to me to be more than enough to destroy the LSD. But that's just a guess, not really an educated opinion..


Depends how you like your steak. My other half eats her"s "blue". Which is basically raw on the inside.
 
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Is it possible that someone in the family is a psychonaut and somehow managed to cross contaminate their food and their drugs? That seems at least a little more likely to me then a random steak injected with LSD.

Even more likely, perhaps their food was contaminated with some other toxin that produced effects that looked, superficially, like LSD intoxication and the reporters have just taken a great story and run with it.

EDIT: Upon another reading, I'm not sure the symptoms described match LSD intoxication. The article describes 'dizziness, shortness of breath and nausea,' none of which are things I associate with tripping on LSD.

Also, if this was the first meal cooked in the house, perhaps the former owners left behind LSD contamination?

The more I read this, the more it sounds like a scare-story.

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I'm not buying into this story at all. Is is just a coincidence that this scary story happened just at the time an LSD study with the promise of it being beneficial medicinally was breaking worldwide in all major papers and through social media? I don't think so. Now this scare story is replacing the story of LSD as potential benefit to humans and the conversations on social media circles. It is NEVER ok to dose anyone with anything that they are not voluntarily willing to take. That said, this story does not add up to me and I am not buying into it. Maybe we will find out the truth, maybe not.
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Mitakuye Oyasin wrote:
I'm not buying into this story at all. Is is just a coincidence that this scary story happened just at the time an LSD study with the promise of it being beneficial medicinally was breaking worldwide in all major papers and through social media? I don't think so. Now this scare story is replacing the story of LSD as potential benefit to humans and the conversations on social media circles. It is NEVER ok to dose anyone with anything that they are not voluntarily willing to take. That said, this story does not add up to me and I am not buying into it. Maybe we will find out the truth, maybe not.

You seem to be verging dangerously close to CT theory.

I'm pretty sure the Powers That Be are not conspiring to make sure LSD gets bad press.

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upon consideration-what if cows have come up with an evolutionary advancement- to secrete LSD so that people become enlightened upon consumption and no longer eat them? Nevermind, I've dosed hundreds of times and still eat them. But not as much.



Good thinking. But not LSD, some novel molecule. BVMT perhaps? as in Bovine Tryptamine.

"dude, these sacred cow hamburgers will have you trip your face-off!"

A new Hindu sect begins to eat cow meat--but only a couple times a year, as a sacrament.
The adherents to this new faith take great exception to frat boys who talk of getting all messed up on Beavsters. Seriously kids, repect the cow. I mean, these same punks who were cow-tipping just a few years back, are now into cow tripping. It's unseemly.

Playland at mcdonalds just got a whole lot more fun! The ball-pen is an experience.

And if this BVMT was something you could insufflate....that's a weird thought, snorting a line of cow.



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Nathanial.Dread wrote:

Also, if this was the first meal cooked in the house, perhaps the former owners left behind LSD contamination?



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Alright, let me clear some things up here:

My earlier comment was said more in sarcasm than it really was meant to be serious. Unfortunately, I do forget from time to time that sarcastic tone cannot be heard in words being typed very well. So my apologies.

Of course it's terrible that this was forced on 6 or 7 year olds. I mean duh?

Here's my problem... I agree with Mitakuye Oyasin. I am having a hard time buying into this.

They cooked the steaks? If that's the case, how did the LSD survive? It degrades in simple light and room temperature IME so I take issue with this so-called "fact." Can any of our chemists' out there confirm this is possible?

I know very little about the critical temp for LSD to be quite honest, but to me, it is very far fetched that someone "laced" these steaks with LSD anywhere else but in the home. But I suppose anything could be possible.

While I am far from the fact in believing that "the Man" or whoever is trying to sabotage LSD or any other drug directly, I do think it's a little weird that all these news stories are popping up all of a sudden about people eating LSD steaks and overdosing on marijuana. (One of the updated stories http://www.nydailynews.c...es-day-article-1.1702377 )

Just a few months ago, the news articles were about DMT labs and how dangerous they were to the community and how much like meth it was.

Lets remember one fact too: prison industry in the US is one of the most lucrative businesses now available to be run. We are a police state after all. Prisons need inmates in order to get funding. Just think about this.

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Ancotar wrote:
I love the verbage they use.... "sickened."

I would hardly consider that state "sickened," but that's just me.



Agreed.

LSD is not toxic. It's not as if they were all poisoned.

Besides, can't you guys feel how fishy this story sounds? No need to wave angry fists at something that probably isn't accurate or even true.





 
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