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"The West's governments harp on about our freedom, and go so far as to suppress and regulate their populations, manipulate people's psychology, imprison tens of millions, whilst simultaneously forcing this paradigm on other countries with war. This freedom is an illusion. Until prostitution, drugs, suicide and euthanasia are legal we are not even free to do what we like to ourselves, and therefor ultimately, shamefully, hypocritical. We beg you to try to change this but do not fear if it seems impossible. The laws of thermodynamics and the eternal infinite dynamic processes at work in this reality will prevail." Just wrote this and wanted your opinions. I will pre-apologize for not being particularly good at getting into massive discussions on this forum but wanted to post anyway.  "Anonymous around the mouse, hyperspace black ops in my house, A technical itch you can't ignore, viral like that magic spore, Laced in life like a blockchain, special characters around my name, They got game like Nintendo flow, it's always the same you will know, I can't be pinned down like a Q-Bit, my architecture all neuromorphic, On the roof if the internet had one, fire escape's fibre optic dragon." Onepacman
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5 Dimensional Nick wrote:" Until prostitution, drugs, suicide and euthanasia are legal we are not even free to do what we like to ourselves, and therefor ultimately, shamefully, hypocritical.
I think that we are free to do these things. We just have to take care over not getting caught. It"s a bit like looking left and right before you cross the road. Another hazard of modern life.
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One thing I remember from a communication class I had to take: never 'pre-appologize'
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hug46 wrote:It"s a bit like looking left and right before you cross the road. Another hazard of modern life. I respectfully disagree. If I neglect to look both ways, and a car hits me, I may be killed or just injured. Either way, I'm dead or free to get up and go and do whatever. Whereas with "illegal" activities, the car would hit me, if alive it'd arrest me, lock me up for as long as it saw fit, make me pay to get out (all the while with the notion that I'm "innocent until proven guilty"  , released, but required to return to be sentenced if I can't properly be defended for something that is victimless. Even if I got charges dropped, it would be at even more of an expense for a proper lawyer. Then if this was luckily my first offense (no prior conviction) it could be expunged at even more expense. If not expunged, future employment could be jeopardized, even without a conviction, just from the arrest record alone. The expungement process can take up to and surpass 6 months. If convicted, well, jail time and/or super limited rights upon release for an amount of time (house arrest or probation). Plus a request to pay for "investigation time" even though my tax dollars already paid their salary. So... respectfully, I feel that is a horrible comparison/analogy. Responding to the OP, that was an excellent and succinct paragraph! I seriously like it and it'd make a great t-shirt to accompany a Guy Fawkes mask. Until the government is run truly FOR and BY the people, we won't be free. I see this mentality in big corporations too. Their people, citizens, or workers respective of the topic, are seen as numbers; liabilities; and even enemies or pests. Once the masses realize the government is supposed to be for the PEOPLE; and not the people for the GOVERNMENT, then an extreme amount of motivation can lead them to a revolt (the masses are L A Z Y ). Lastly, would Jesus dieing be a pre-apology?  Please take no offense at this joke. * Everything I write is made up tripe: whispers of wind coming off the blades in my face for I am a fictional man with a floor fan for a brain pan.
Say something to my face, I have no choice, but to replace my reply, with your Darth Vader voice!
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Governments are run by: People Corporations are made up of: People Law enforcement offices, prisons, courts; all staffed by: People Wars are fought by: People Environmental destruction is pursued by: People Revolutions are waged by: People Local economies are sustained by: People Justice is dispensed by: People Peace is achieved by: People Sustainability is practiced by: People The questions come down to each individual: What do your actions support? What are you working for? Where are your dollars going? What choices are you making? No use pawning it off on our fictitious creations, each one of us makes choices each day that contribute to the future of our choosing. The power is and always has been in our hands. Choose wisely my friends ❤
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FloorFan wrote:hug46 wrote:It"s a bit like looking left and right before you cross the road. Another hazard of modern life. If I neglect to look both ways, and a car hits me, I may be killed or just injured. Either way, I'm dead or free to get up and go and do whatever. Whereas with "illegal" activities, the car would hit me, if alive it'd arrest me, lock me up for as long as it saw fit, make me pay to get out (all the while with the notion that I'm "innocent until proven guilty"Pleased, released, but required to return to be sentenced if I can't properly be defended for something that is victimless. Even if I got charges dropped, it would be at even more of an expense for a proper lawyer. respectfully, I feel that is a horrible comparison/analogy. I am sorry that you feel that way and hope that you were not offended by my comparison. I would still take getting busted for posession or consorting with a prostitute over being hit by a car.
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We are living in the bonds of an older generation's making, and it is the duty of our beginners to outlast them. It's important for them to learn from those mistakes by bearing the full brunt of it before rightfully shedding off all that is unnecessary, extending their reach beyond our bird cage-like frameworks to begin building what is to come. What is required first is proper foundation.
I don't think it's anything novel with this of current events and I don't think it's possible to break away from history, but that it's possible our genetics are evolving at a comparatively rapid pace.
I'm with what dreamer042 said. But I like what you wrote, it's something that would likely resonate with many.
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Hug, not offended at all, joust how i see it  I love hearing others' points and bouncing mine off. I hope the words 'respectfully' and 'I feel that...' denoted that I was not offended nor meant to offend either. I thank you none the less for your words of concern towards peaceful interactions. I'm sitting here with the knowledge of being busted beofre but no knowledge of any serious injuries ever (thankfully at that!) and am perplexed at what would be worse. Hmmm... so many consequences arises from either of the two! Imagine getting hit by a car while trying to pick up a hooker and all your drugs spilled onto the road with a cop car behind the car that hit you!  I jest  (worst jest of today so far) * Everything I write is made up tripe: whispers of wind coming off the blades in my face for I am a fictional man with a floor fan for a brain pan.
Say something to my face, I have no choice, but to replace my reply, with your Darth Vader voice!
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 "Full of multiversal flow!"
Posts: 258 Joined: 12-May-2013 Last visit: 28-Nov-2022 Location: UK Boi!
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hug46 wrote:5 Dimensional Nick wrote:" Until prostitution, drugs, suicide and euthanasia are legal we are not even free to do what we like to ourselves, and therefor ultimately, shamefully, hypocritical.
I think that we are free to do these things. We just have to take care over not getting caught. It"s a bit like looking left and right before you cross the road. Another hazard of modern life. on reflection u are correct. its the taking it to the rest of the world that really gets me "Anonymous around the mouse, hyperspace black ops in my house, A technical itch you can't ignore, viral like that magic spore, Laced in life like a blockchain, special characters around my name, They got game like Nintendo flow, it's always the same you will know, I can't be pinned down like a Q-Bit, my architecture all neuromorphic, On the roof if the internet had one, fire escape's fibre optic dragon." Onepacman
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 "Full of multiversal flow!"
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tango wrote:One thing I remember from a communication class I had to take: never 'pre-appologize' glaring obvious. this is why i love this forum  "Anonymous around the mouse, hyperspace black ops in my house, A technical itch you can't ignore, viral like that magic spore, Laced in life like a blockchain, special characters around my name, They got game like Nintendo flow, it's always the same you will know, I can't be pinned down like a Q-Bit, my architecture all neuromorphic, On the roof if the internet had one, fire escape's fibre optic dragon." Onepacman
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Posts: 258 Joined: 12-May-2013 Last visit: 28-Nov-2022 Location: UK Boi!
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FloorFan wrote:hug46 wrote:It"s a bit like looking left and right before you cross the road. Another hazard of modern life. I respectfully disagree. If I neglect to look both ways, and a car hits me, I may be killed or just injured. Either way, I'm dead or free to get up and go and do whatever. Whereas with "illegal" activities, the car would hit me, if alive it'd arrest me, lock me up for as long as it saw fit, make me pay to get out (all the while with the notion that I'm "innocent until proven guilty"  , released, but required to return to be sentenced if I can't properly be defended for something that is victimless. Even if I got charges dropped, it would be at even more of an expense for a proper lawyer. Then if this was luckily my first offense (no prior conviction) it could be expunged at even more expense. If not expunged, future employment could be jeopardized, even without a conviction, just from the arrest record alone. The expungement process can take up to and surpass 6 months. If convicted, well, jail time and/or super limited rights upon release for an amount of time (house arrest or probation). Plus a request to pay for "investigation time" even though my tax dollars already paid their salary. So... respectfully, I feel that is a horrible comparison/analogy. Responding to the OP, that was an excellent and succinct paragraph! I seriously like it and it'd make a great t-shirt to accompany a Guy Fawkes mask. Until the government is run truly FOR and BY the people, we won't be free. I see this mentality in big corporations too. Their people, citizens, or workers respective of the topic, are seen as numbers; liabilities; and even enemies or pests. Once the masses realize the government is supposed to be for the PEOPLE; and not the people for the GOVERNMENT, then an extreme amount of motivation can lead them to a revolt (the masses are L A Z Y ). Lastly, would Jesus dieing be a pre-apology?  Please take no offense at this joke. F ME THE MIND BOGGLES. switchero. you hit the nail so hard on the head its come out in OZ land! On your OPreply.... THANKS. I loved reading that. I recall a point i heard that if you analogized "systems within reality" to charactertypes/mentalillnesses etc. CORPORATIONS would be classed as PSYCHOPATHS/ now known as ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIORAL DISORDER. frankly i feel this is unfair to psychos! anyway... good to chat. you've processed my mind along alot. thankyou. "Anonymous around the mouse, hyperspace black ops in my house, A technical itch you can't ignore, viral like that magic spore, Laced in life like a blockchain, special characters around my name, They got game like Nintendo flow, it's always the same you will know, I can't be pinned down like a Q-Bit, my architecture all neuromorphic, On the roof if the internet had one, fire escape's fibre optic dragon." Onepacman
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dreamer042 wrote:Governments are run by: People Corporations are made up of: People Law enforcement offices, prisons, courts; all staffed by: People Wars are fought by: People Environmental destruction is pursued by: People
Revolutions are waged by: People Local economies are sustained by: People Justice is dispensed by: People Peace is achieved by: People Sustainability is practiced by: People
The questions come down to each individual: What do your actions support? What are you working for? Where are your dollars going? What choices are you making?
No use pawning it off on our fictitious creations, each one of us makes choices each day that contribute to the future of our choosing. The power is and always has been in our hands.
Choose wisely my friends ❤ "Anonymous around the mouse, hyperspace black ops in my house, A technical itch you can't ignore, viral like that magic spore, Laced in life like a blockchain, special characters around my name, They got game like Nintendo flow, it's always the same you will know, I can't be pinned down like a Q-Bit, my architecture all neuromorphic, On the roof if the internet had one, fire escape's fibre optic dragon." Onepacman
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Posts: 258 Joined: 12-May-2013 Last visit: 28-Nov-2022 Location: UK Boi!
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thymamai wrote:We are living in the bonds of an older generation's making, and it is the duty of our beginners to outlast them. It's important for them to learn from those mistakes by bearing the full brunt of it before rightfully shedding off all that is unnecessary, extending their reach beyond our bird cage-like frameworks to begin building what is to come. What is required first is proper foundation.
I don't think it's anything novel with this of current events and I don't think it's possible to break away from history, but that it's possible our genetics are evolving at a comparatively rapid pace.
I'm with what dreamer042 said. But I like what you wrote, it's something that would likely resonate with many. "Anonymous around the mouse, hyperspace black ops in my house, A technical itch you can't ignore, viral like that magic spore, Laced in life like a blockchain, special characters around my name, They got game like Nintendo flow, it's always the same you will know, I can't be pinned down like a Q-Bit, my architecture all neuromorphic, On the roof if the internet had one, fire escape's fibre optic dragon." Onepacman
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FloorFan wrote:Hug, not offended at all, joust how i see it  I love hearing others' points and bouncing mine off. I hope the words 'respectfully' and 'I feel that...' denoted that I was not offended nor meant to offend either. I thank you none the less for your words of concern towards peaceful interactions. I'm sitting here with the knowledge of being busted beofre but no knowledge of any serious injuries ever (thankfully at that!) and am perplexed at what would be worse. Hmmm... so many consequences arises from either of the two! Imagine getting hit by a car while trying to pick up a hooker and all your drugs spilled onto the road with a cop car behind the car that hit you!  I jest  (worst jest of today so far) I had DOB for the first time about 30 hours ago and am still tripping (slightly), by accident, ironically  How I feel about your perplextion: I've had some nasty injuries in my time (relatively), and the odd semi-temporary severe mental illness. Last night I had a brief experience that i'd never had, namely a small, totally uncontrollable shaking/twitching of my thumbs/hand. It was briefly TERRIFYING and lastingly worrying for a number of hours (fortunately i feel gr8now) and I can only recall that i thought it was probably what Parkinsons or the end of Altzeimers might be like.... I would take multiple years in prison (although I have never been, so its my imagination of prison), possibly life (without release)..... over those two possible "PSYCH-INJURIES" anyday. Of course I feel this is interesting and needed to be said.... it may be wrong..... But in my heart I believe its true. On a cheerier note... THIS FORUM ROX "Anonymous around the mouse, hyperspace black ops in my house, A technical itch you can't ignore, viral like that magic spore, Laced in life like a blockchain, special characters around my name, They got game like Nintendo flow, it's always the same you will know, I can't be pinned down like a Q-Bit, my architecture all neuromorphic, On the roof if the internet had one, fire escape's fibre optic dragon." Onepacman
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FloorFan wrote: I love hearing others' points and bouncing mine off.
We are on the same page. Quote:I'm sitting here with the knowledge of being busted beofre but no knowledge of any serious injuries ever (thankfully at that!) and am perplexed at what would be worse. I have experienced both. And the drug busts were preferable in many ways; But i will admit that i was in the UK at the time and i think that we get a better time of it! 5 Dimensional Nick wrote: its the taking it to the rest of the world that really gets me Hopefully the rest of the world will catch up. As far as drugs and prostitution goes it is a simple case of supply and demand. People like doing drugs and the threat of punishment doesn"t seem to put the dedicated consciousness altering individuals off. The war on drugs fails on so many levels.
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We've got it! Let's not beat around the bush any more. We're here to announce, as of tomorrow, we are declaring war on... HAPPINESS! Screw the constitution. Pursuit of what? NOPE! That's illegal! After all, you might hurt... YOURSELF! Don't be your own victim! If you suspect you or anyone else of pursuing fulfillment, the betterment of themselves, or any sense of joy and wonderment at all, call: 1-800-freedome immediately. Or you could just send all your earnings to us and we'll leave you alone. Money makes us happy. We make the law. It's not illegal if you are the one making it illegal. Here say we, the "people" of the government! * Everything I write is made up tripe: whispers of wind coming off the blades in my face for I am a fictional man with a floor fan for a brain pan.
Say something to my face, I have no choice, but to replace my reply, with your Darth Vader voice!
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 "Full of multiversal flow!"
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LOL. What he said! "Anonymous around the mouse, hyperspace black ops in my house, A technical itch you can't ignore, viral like that magic spore, Laced in life like a blockchain, special characters around my name, They got game like Nintendo flow, it's always the same you will know, I can't be pinned down like a Q-Bit, my architecture all neuromorphic, On the roof if the internet had one, fire escape's fibre optic dragon." Onepacman
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