Oh my.

I have had maybe 3-4 DMT experiences using an MJ sandwich with mild to moderate effects, but they haven't even come CLOSE to where I got with the GVG! I tested it for about 2-3 days with Cannabis (both with a normal lighter and with a torch) until I got the technique down, then I decided to start exploring.

Day One: 20mg, sitting in the dark. One solid hit. Before I even exhaled (I'm guessing ~10 seconds), I was already somewhere else. It started with that really low whining/pinging noise that slowly and slowly and slowly gets louder, until your consciousness becomes altogether separated from your body and you have no idea what the hell is going on. I could see the outline of my bookshelves in front of me start to vibrate violently and come in and out of focus very rapidly. There was a specific moment during this adventure when I thought to myself: "This is DMT." All sorts of colorful geometry floated past me, and it was so close I reached out and tried to touch it. I stayed still until I felt almost "normal" again, got up and took a steaming hot bath.

Day Two: 30mg, during the day. One BIG hit this time. 30mg was almost too much. The onset was even more rapid than my first dose, almost violent. I heard the faint whining/pinging noise again, except this time it was DEAFENING. I don't even know how to describe it, but the auditory hallucinations were the most noticeable thing about this adventure. It was almost like I was hearing this impossibly loud machinery running, making all kinds of strange rhythms. "Should I take the second hit? Don't take the second hit." Again, my vision began to vibrate, focus came in and out...the wall opposite me basically looked like the front page of the DMT Nexus: crazy geometric shapes forming and falling apart everywhere, a strange "grid" (that's the only way I can describe it) superimposed over my vision with pulsating lines of colors. Everything took on a very angular, stark appearance. Instead of the walls breathing, EVERYTHING was breathing. Things were swaying around, colors bleeding into each other, etc. etc. "Did I go to far?" I asked myself. "Enjoy the show" I thought, and a satisfied grin accompanied the last few moments.

I am AMAZED at the efficiency of this device. I have used probably 5x these dosages using an MJ sandwich with maybe half the effects. You can blast off in one hit instead of having to sit and smoke an entire bowl of Cannabis until you're too stoned to even know that you're tripping and coughing your lungs up. The vapor was mild and painless; although I felt a cough coming on, I managed to hold the hit in. I was anxious to try changa, but I am more than satisfied with the GVG (although I may try it in the future when I want to try something new).

Thanks for reading!

Excellent.
Next time, you might want to try eyes closed. I am a big proponent of closing your eyes during a dmt trip. If you get big enough hit, it doesn't matter from what I've heard. I only do open eyes with changa. When I open my eyes during a trip, things look fairly normal compared to what's going on behind my eyelids.
I never mix cannabis with dmt, unless the dmt dosage is tiny, like 5 mg. It clouds the experience for me.

Welcome to the cult of the GVG. Your technique will get even better over time. There are people on this board who report being able to achieve full breakthrough with 20mgs, reliably every time. Do you have a good torch? There is a cheap unbranded Arc available on e bay. The design feels like it was made exclusively for the GVG.

Check it out:

I may try eyes closed next time I go on an adventure in the dark. I just wanted to see what a solid hit of DMT would make the world around me look like and I got my answer. As far as Cannabis, I sprinkled a small layer on top of the screens before I put the crystals in the pipe. Cannabis is sort of a "trip buddy" for me (has helped with trip anxiety on a variety of different hallucinogens, and has pulled me up from some pretty messed up trips), so I like taking him along...although now that I don't need to use a sandwich, I might just try straight crystal next time.

I have two of those lighters already (got them from Amazon instead though), just in case one breaks mid-rip

What is the highest recommended dosage for the GVG? I'm thinking of going up in 5mg increments to find the sweet spot (and to not completely blow my brain out of my skull). I've heard some users say you can get a breakthrough with 20-30mg's and some say that 50-60mg's is required...but earlier today I read a post that said never to even go above 45-50mg's! As one more experienced in the wonders of the GVG than I, could you share your wisdom?

IME I have achieved breakthroughs on as little as 15mg. 25-30mg is really all you need for max dose but if you have the guts increase by 5mg when going any higher.

A 50mg dose is much more intense than you can imagine. I did it once. Dont care to have that experience again. I do not recommend it.

Learning how to break through on lower doses is the patient way. It requires that you close your eyes and go with the experience. Learn to let go. Closing your eyes is the only way to breakthrough unless you take a large enough dose imo. Then in that case you won't even know if your eyes are opened or closed.

OEVs are great but I prefer CEVs. At this point for me the room no longer has to be pitch black and I don't cover my eyes anymore.

For me I need about 30mg for a full experience with the GVG, I find 40mg faaaar too much, although I have gone much further in attempt to defeat the closed door effect a few times (didn’t make any difference, if the doors are closed they are closed it seems to me).

If I am increasing dose I go up in 2mg increments currently, as little as 2mg seems be significantly different for me.

Good to know...next time I'll try 30mg, but do it in the dark with my eyes closed and see where I go.

P.S., Your vape guide was what I was referring to earlier when I was talking about dosing. Great read, thanks for writing it!



What is the "closed door effect?"

awesome! I am glad you found it useful. I am actually going to be cleaning it up a bit re organizing it and adding some info.

So you are using a bed of cannabis in the gvg to keep the dmt from melting down into the neck right? Have you checked to see if there was still dmt left over? Are you vaping the entire contents you placed in there? Im assuming your using a scale.

I’m not sure if I just coined the term or not, but it is reasonably common to find that sometimes DMT has little to no effect at a dose you normally find gives a full experience, and even at much higher than average doses. I think I have got as far as 60mg trying to fight this to no avail. Nowadays I just accept that if it doesn’t work at a normal dosage then it isn’t the right time.

Whether this effect is psychological, physiological, a mix of these or something else I have no idea.

Yes, and put 8 screens on top (more like 4 cut in half because they're too big for the GVG. I believe the ones it needs are 5/8'', correct?) After the first trip had ended, I hit it a few more times and got nothing. After the second trip, I was too far gone to think about taking DMT anytime in the immediate future, plus I wanted to use my GVG for Cannabis, so I dumped everything out afterwards; it's possible that there was still something in there. And yes, I recently purchased a mg scale.



This is interesting because only just now am I understanding the whole psychological aspect of a breakthrough (ie. getting yourself there). Originally I thought you just smoked a "breakthrough dose" and you broke through. I'm learning more and more and more about this wonderful substance!

Ya sometimes its quite interesting [and often frustrating] being on the edge of a breakthrough. Ive literally been past the edge about to breakthrough only to fail at holding the "let go" step and be pulled back a little. Only to do that over and over again. It was a trip, literally.

Ditch the screens and try pre-melting your dose into a copper mesh disc (or volcano liquid pad, I think the chore boy is better personally). Check this thread out (the part where Gibran2 describes how the disc is made):

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=28764

The 2 bucks you spend on a scrubber, that will last you a decade is worth it. When I moved to the the copper mesh, things INSTANTLY got easier and better.

I remember I wanted to have the experience of a lifetime on 12/21/12, and I literally could not get anything to happen no matter how hard I tried...and I tried several times, ramping up the dosage and all that to no avail. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't even get a sub-breakthrough going. It was mind-boggling. Meanwhile, the next day I had the following experience:

DMT: Seeing it all connect

Ive never owned a smoking apparatus of any kind before. My first was just a standard bowl with a long stem. I tried vaping spice 3 times with that after I bought it, failed each time and said screw this, and I was going to make myself a machine. I said oh to hell with this crap and I dropped the dough on a GVG.

Best $109 I ever spent hahah.

I will be trying out my new GVG when I get off work today for the first time. I will be ingesting 40mg of 25x Syrian Rue extract 30 minutes before vaping 30mg FB DMT.

I am very excited to see what happens if it's anything interesting I will post a new thread on the trip sometime today.

probably not much, I cant see it being exciting or special in anyway to be honest

Liar

Good luck, I haven't tried it without anything else but freebase. Godspeed and good vibes!

By ingesting I meant making a rue tea and drinking it 30minutes prior to smoking. I didn't have the right set yesterday so I'm gonna try again today for a more relaxed environment. If I have 25x syrian rue extract and I take 40mgs I am in fact taking 1g of syrian rue correct? Is that a high enough dose?

I have a question about the GVG as I am thinking about getting one. I see a lot of posts recommending that you melt the xtals onto a copper mesh or ceramic disc beforehand. However, I prefer to use an herbal bed, such as mullein. I was wondering how effective the GVG is when using an herbal bed for your xtals?

Works very well with herbal bed too..

Personally I use the volcano liquid pad and straight crystals on top, and dont pre-melt the crystals... The issue with adding more material appart from the DMT IMO is that you will be inhaling more vapors from other things, and I rather just inhale the least amount of vapor necessary to get me where I want to go.