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Travling Tommy
#21 Posted : 2/9/2014 6:07:20 PM

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Yes i use acaia confusa root bark. I am doing the max ion tek right now actually With two parallell 150g extractions,defatting right now Smile I used she salt hybbrid tek before to(both cyb).With good result.
The acid bath on max ion tek i do in the night when i sleep, ijust make sure it keep a steady 45 celsius before i go to bed. And the pulls i do more quicly With max ion tek.so it does not make that a big diffrence for me(except the freze Thaw part-but i try to start that some time before i have planed to extract,so that is also ok).

But the defatting is always a tricky part for me ass i have anxiety for throwing some water With dmt in it(i can only see the fat laying on top and its difficult to get out), so my defatting is not so effective...Any good advice on that?

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#22 Posted : 2/9/2014 6:50:35 PM

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Once I started fanning, the white lumps became clear or slid down and then became clear (condensation may have been a problem). So, now the pan is level to the table and I'm just evaporating everything in it (including the naphtha I decanted).
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#23 Posted : 2/9/2014 7:03:21 PM

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primordium wrote:
Once I started fanning, the white lumps became clear or slid down and then became clear (condensation may have been a problem). So, now the pan is level to the table and I'm just evaporating everything in it (including the naphtha I decanted).

I have had one or two promising looking crystals melt aswell but I think they must of been mostly condensation or had been mostly naphtha anyway ! I think Surprised
 
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#24 Posted : 2/10/2014 3:17:40 AM

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If it is melting at room temperature i dont think its DMT. lol. If it does turn into a clear goo, keep a fan on it and get it to harden up. If it never hardens up i would suspect some form of contamination. But you should all know that pure dmt is a clear oil. Smile But i doubt thats whats happening here. Yall should really try to bioassay your clumps and goos and everything else to see if theyre any good. You may be VERY suprised.
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#25 Posted : 2/10/2014 3:37:33 PM

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primodierm, It looks like you are doing small pulls with small amounts of bark. CYBS ab salt tek works great with acrb. You should try larger extractions and combine your pulls for better results. Sometimes I will see globs like you have that melt to goo. But after doing larger pulls and combining pulls the results turn up better.
 
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#26 Posted : 2/10/2014 4:13:53 PM

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Ok I tryed the ..[Max Ion tek...same as the cybs salt tek?]

Last night and got crystals forming fairly soon!.. but my freezer wont get very cold so I put small sealed mason jar buried in ice all night [ice is about 40 degrees]..and got very clean looking but [tiny] crystals that didnt grow much...

Ive never seen crystals this uniform and tiny..!

Maybe it was because of the temp not being low enough for this tec..

I will just redesolve these crystals and try to recrystalize...

I wonder if i could get decent crystals just evaporating the napatha ?/??

Photos below of //[top veiw looking into small jar]...and one photo looking up through bottom of jar..

Then picture of napatha.. [i poured out]..still milky holding more DMT not crystalized...

And photo of the tiny crystals scraped up quite nicely ..fairly dry and handlable!!Smile


Defenantly diferent effects to other methods ive used...!
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#27 Posted : 2/10/2014 4:21:59 PM

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User1911 wrote:
primodierm, It looks like you are doing small pulls with small amounts of bark. CYBS ab salt tek works great with acrb. You should try larger extractions and combine your pulls for better results. Sometimes I will see globs like you have that melt to goo. But after doing larger pulls and combining pulls the results turn up better.


That's pretty much the same advice Endlessness and Cyb told me the other day ,, and if that's what these fellas say it's pretty much law , as who on here would be more experienced to give tips to us noobs !!Thumbs up
 
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#28 Posted : 2/10/2014 4:33:52 PM

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WOW!!!Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin
This stuff came out dry! and powdery! very clean looking!
Next test to see if its active DMT!Big grin
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#29 Posted : 2/11/2014 12:34:37 PM

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User1911 wrote:
primodierm, It looks like you are doing small pulls with small amounts of bark. CYBS ab salt tek works great with acrb. You should try larger extractions and combine your pulls for better results. Sometimes I will see globs like you have that melt to goo. But after doing larger pulls and combining pulls the results turn up better.


What would you recommend as a minimum amount? I used 70g and did 6 pulls.
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#30 Posted : 2/11/2014 12:57:29 PM

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primordium wrote:
User1911 wrote:
primodierm, It looks like you are doing small pulls with small amounts of bark. CYBS ab salt tek works great with acrb. You should try larger extractions and combine your pulls for better results. Sometimes I will see globs like you have that melt to goo. But after doing larger pulls and combining pulls the results turn up better.


What would you recommend as a minimum amount? I used 70g and did 6 pulls.

I'd go minimum 100g acrb , and do up to six pulls then keep soup for a week , then pull till it's not worth it anymore !!
 
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#31 Posted : 2/11/2014 4:44:01 PM

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starway6 wrote:
WOW!!!Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin
This stuff came out dry! and powdery! very clean looking!
Next test to see if its active DMT!Big grin


Great work!
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#32 Posted : 2/12/2014 1:05:34 AM

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primordium wrote:
starway6 wrote:
WOW!!!Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin
This stuff came out dry! and powdery! very clean looking!
Next test to see if its active DMT!Big grin


Great work!


This is my first time using ..[cybs salt tek] and i just got lucky ..

What you see in blue vile is is pull one from 50 grams of acacia bark.. producing only about 80 to 100 mgs of what ..[i hope is DMT not nmt]?.... I have yet to try it..

The ..[cyb salt tek] is new to me but seems easy ..as i was using ...thicklights tek ..which is a very good tek...but has soo many steps.. and all that acid boiling for hoursWut?
Below is another photo of crystals taking on yet another form!
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#33 Posted : 2/12/2014 4:53:13 PM

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Here is pull 3 from 50 grams of acacia confusa bark..[using cybs salt tek]
I had to first reduce the napatha volume causing a saturation effect then buried sealed jar in ice over night..[because freezer isnt getting very cold]..
Two photos right after dumping napatha in another jar...then two photos after almost dryed..[zoom photos to clearly see crystal formations]..
then product in blue jar..
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#34 Posted : 3/14/2014 10:30:54 AM

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Looks good! Shame about the little blob of base mix must do better next time Wink
 
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