So, i have the machine made and have tried about 5+ times with 10-30mg doses mostly, twice with 40mg.

I tried today with 40mg, was going for breakthrough..but i failed. I took first hit, as much as i could, then held for as long as i could, small amount of smoke was breathed out. I think i got other hit also, but that wasn't that big as first..at this point - i froze and forgot(?) to take another hit. This happened twice. Not because i was scared, but i just froze. It was still pretty cool, can't explain it but the room changed and it was all weird, i didn't even remember to close my eyes, sit back or move my hands with the machine and lighter, when i came back i was just what the fuck just happened but doubt it was breakthrough. I couldn't really remember anything " special "..are breakthrough trips remember better because if not...meh.

hey, i felt exactly the same the first few times. Although i have been doing my reading, talking and researching about 10 years, before i administered dmt, my expectations were nothing to close to it . Well, i don't have a machine, i vaporize it with a small glass bong , but what i can share is that this freezing you talk about seems a normal reaction to me - for such doses as you mentioned. My mind-body is just so astonished that all the sense of "I"-ness dissolving so rapidly, yet so gracefully, that I just can't recall anything from that interval of time. I even think i forget to breathe at a certain point. Getting used to it, and you will no longer froze, or forget to take one more hit to breakthrough

Check out this thread , and there are other plenty theads in the Smoking section, that people have come up with different subtlety techniques for successfully breaking-through.

I can't and am not trying to advise on proper dosing. Just want to share my experience so far - which is 12 times smoking, 7 or 8 breakthroughs (can't remember pretty well . It is better for people not that experienced such as ourselves to start with lower doses, just to gain some experience under their belts, and face sub-break-through effects with less anxiety . But i usually breakthrough with 50 mg, sandwiched in 50-100 lime leaves. I also do it all alone, to me psychonautics is pretty intimate thing, and have noticed so far , that i can't keep the lighter spiraling around the bong chamber after the second deep hit. On my latest experiences , i was able to breakthrough instantly after the second hit. No carrier wave , no buzzing, no vibrations in my head. Only the sense of being weightless arises slowly after the first toke, but i am still able to handle the bong and the lighter in my hands. But few of the times (when i couldn't breakthrough), it was because of getting under the effects of the second hit. And it is pretty close to breakthrough, but i left the bong and just enjoy it.

And i know that my smoking technique is pretty beginner yet, and i could probably breakthrough with significantly smaller dosage. People here report breakthrough on 15-20 mg, if i am not mistaken. But this is just how it works for me. I know 50 mg is quite a big dose, and will have to enhance my smoking technique further more.




when you breakthrough , you will certainly know it. Although you might not remember much from it, the emotional response is so great, that you will feel there is something very "special" that you could have not taken back with you in your memory. And in my experience, the spirits that i met there were very insisting that it will happen just like that . It's nothing like meh....In my humble experience - the most fascinating spiritual revelation i've faced so far.


Wish you good luck on your journeys! Peace!