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Posts: 14 Joined: 10-Dec-2013 Last visit: 13-Feb-2015
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Overall, this will be a pretty under-whelming account. I thought those who have never tried DMT may find if of interest or use. I did this yesterday.
Be warned, I am a little wordy. This is a long post for such a seemingly trivial experience. But it is detailed for those who can appreciate that.
Past Experience: A decade of extensive psychedelic use during which I meditated regularly. Followed by 5 year hiatus but with daily meditation.
A little background: After a five year hiatus, I was reluctant to jump into dmt. The weekend prior I took about 1.5-2 grams of mushrooms with my girlfriend. I experienced some anxiety with the come up but ended up having a fairly mild/short lived experience. It was overall a good experience and I'm glad I did it.
Preparation: 20 years searching, 1 year of rigourous research, performed extraction myself with mindfulness and setting honorable intent.
Preparation day of: meditation and set intent. I asked for a gentle introduction but accepted whatever may come.
Method: ~10mg of re-x'd yellowish white crystals into the "machine." I believe I vaped most, or all, of it without any waste. I used the machine and it was not harsh at all. I will "clear the device" today to assess how much, if any remained.
My first DMT experience:
I didn't want to breakthrough on my first go at this. I figured I would be OK with 10mg to start. I exhaled completely and vaped until my lungs were full. I believe I got pretty much all of the 10mg. I counted to 20, during which I began to feel things shift a bit. Upon exhaling, it hit me completely.
I was clearly in that "trippy" space. There was only a color shift and slight breathing of objects visually with my eyes open. In spite of, I was quickly terrified. It happened so quickly. Unfortunately, this caused me to resist. I knew there was no turning back though, so I closed my eyes and rested my head back (I was sitting on my couch).
I continued to feel anxious and scared about what was going to happen. A sort of static of colors began to appear though not clearly. This quickly took form. I have to say first, at no point did imagery become crystal clear. It was not like looking at a picture or having one's eyes open. It was a bit like when I meditate and focus on my mind's imagery. A bit foggy visually. I attribute this to resisting. I felt it could become very vivid if I would just completely let go.
The shape, however, was very identifiable. I saw a very colorful perfectly symetrical circle divided into 4 equal quadrants. The quadrants took a N, S, E, W position within the circle. Each quadrant had a maze type pattern within them, all mirror images. At the NW, SW, NE and SE corners, the circle had a kind of extension sitting on the outside of the circle's circumference, a little more angular of a protrusion but still rounded. Within this was the same maze type pattern. The background was colorful but formless. It seemed very mayan/aztec to me.
The image was static. Perhaps the color was dynamic and changing within, but the overall form did not change. I felt I was supposed to go into it. It was drawing me towards it. Unfortunately, I continued to resist. This only seemed to last about a minute. My girlfriend said I had my eyes closed about 5 minutes. This seems contradictory to every other account and all of my other psychedelic experiences. Instead of time slowing, it didn't appear to last long at all to me.
After I opened my eyes, I felt very "trippy." No visuals but that strange feeling was present as was a slight color shift. This lasted about another 5 minutes or so. I was very clear headed.
Conclusion:
As I said, my account was somewhat under-whelming. The visual aspect for me was mild, especially compared to what I have witnessed on mushrooms and lsd. The emotional component and come up was very intense and powerful. I'm certain this is why I became so fearful.
Just like when I did shrooms the week before, the come up had me immediately thinking that dmt might not be for me. I thought it before I closed my eyes and shortly thereafter as the image took form. Afterwords, I am only more interested. Yet still scared.
Overall, I was left with a feeling that this was a very intense experience. I suspect it is due to the speed with which it happens. I can't even begin to imagine what a breakthrough will be like. I imagine I will take things slowly and work my way up to that. If I find that there is still some residual spice in my machine tonight, then on my next full attempt, I will try to do a whole 10 mg (two tokes if necessary). If not, I think I will go for 15mg. I will try not to resist and can hopefully face my fear and let go. Harder said than done, even with the desire to do so. Emotion is a funny thing.
In the end, I got what I wanted. A mild initiation. I am grateful for that. I just wish it wasn't so scary. It was my first time though, so hopefully I can find that place I was once a little more comfortable with.
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Posts: 14 Joined: 10-Dec-2013 Last visit: 13-Feb-2015
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Holy Smoalks!!! So, it turns out there was some remaining spice in my machine. The result was quite unexpected, lol. Very curious, because I didn’t consume as much as I did yesterday. I don’t think. Yesterday I completely exhaled and fully filled my lungs. The whole time my machine was full of dense flowing vapor. Tonight, I wanted to clear it out, to figure out dosing for my next full-fledged attempt. I wasn’t expecting much. And indeed, it didn’t appear that much spice was left. I am guessing half of what I took in last night. The vapor was not quite as dense and the vape ran out when my lungs were at about half capacity. I didn’t hold it in. I immediately exhaled.
And BOOM! Fully immersed, kaleidoscopic wonderment. I’ve been here before. Many times on varying psychedelics. And this time, I didn’t have any fear. I even thought.. and even observed the thought, that I didn’t get afraid this time. While fully immersed.
I won’t go into too much detail about what this experience was like as it has already been discussed much. It wasn’t a breakthrough. Just the colorful dynamic framework. I want to say that I didn’t spend quite the time preparing. I meditated only briefly. Almost impulsively started smoking. Didn’t get quite as much. Didn’t hold it in. And in a flash I was completely there. It felt like the experience was lasting much longer than yesterday, which when I thought that caused me to open my eyes. I was full on tripping like I have so many times in the past.
All in all it lasted about 10 minutes. About 5 minutes in kaleidoscopic beauty and 5 minutes of intense shroom like tripping. I suppose the spirits are being kind to me and taking me in stages. It seems to be somewhat of a common scenario. My experience, however, seems to be less related to my dose. Perhaps more of what you are ready for. ..I’m actually going to start another thread about this in the FAQ or welcome discussion because it is a conclusion I drew early on in my trials with lsd.
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 Homo discens
Posts: 1827 Joined: 02-Aug-2012 Last visit: 07-Aug-2020
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I have noticed this many times, in my own experience and those of others. The most recent time was only a couple months ago: One night three people I know were trying DMT, two of them for the first time. The third had tried a small dose (~10mg) once before. All experienced with psychedelics, the two first-timers with a more spiritual/exploratory approach and the third with more of a recreational approach. The two first-timers went first, both with 10mg in one pull through The Machine. They both had equally intense, immersive, sub-breakthrough experiences. The one with the recreational approach hit 20mg in one pull through The Machine. He felt almost nothing. A slight head change and some color enhancement. Much less effect than the ~10mg dose he had tried a few weeks prior. He used the same technique as the other two, did not burn the spice, and there was none left in the pipe. I personally have had many experiences where I either took a relatively large dose in one breath and felt only mildly altered, or took a relatively small dose in one breath and felt substantially greater effect than I had previously on a comparable dose. I find this phenomenon very interesting.
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 plant enthusiast
Posts: 93 Joined: 06-Mar-2013 Last visit: 17-May-2016 Location: planet earth
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Very interesting account man! I too haven't broken through but even at the sub breakthrough level it is still incredibly intensive to say the least. Don't feel bad man I'm kinda edgy about breaking on through to the other side. It was insanely unfathomable just the two times I've smoked it so far. That being said within minutes of coming out I was left thinking seriously did that really just happen? Its rather odd overall but so damn fascinating!
After trying aya Saturday for the first time I'm less apprehensive to smoke the DMT but I'm still pretty edgy. The aya I don't even know what to really say about it. I'm fairly dumbfounded. I want to write about it so badly and let my mind flow into sentences as I type but I feel I can't do the experience justice. Someday I hope to get a report up but as of now I cannot find the necessary words if there is such words.
Peace man happy travels!
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 DMT-Nexus member

Posts: 5267 Joined: 01-Jul-2010 Last visit: 13-Dec-2018
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Some of those sub-breakthroughs can really be breakneck fast. Sub-breakthroughs can be plenty visionary and intense in their own right. Breakthroughs probably tend to have more clarity, more of a sense of building, and a stronger afterglow. I can also relate completely with this: Entheogenerator wrote:
I personally have had many experiences where I either took a relatively large dose in one breath and felt only mildly altered, or took a relatively small dose in one breath and felt substantially greater effect than I had previously on a comparable dose.
It makes it even more unpredictable than it already is! "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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Posts: 35 Joined: 21-Jun-2014 Last visit: 06-Jul-2024
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These sub-breakthrough experiences are really important too, thanks for sharing.
Sometimes I have a fear of breaking through.. other times I feel a calling to go back deep. I'm glad that you are listening to your mind and body.
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