He went to town on Paxman but it was plain to see that Paxman was completely enamoured by him right from the start. Some folk just cannot resist a narcissist.



I feel exactly the same way but in reverse. If we don"t have a say all the asswipes who usually vote will just help to maintain the status quo till it all goes tits up. I think that i would feel a complete halfwit if i let that happen without putting my two penneth worth into the pot.

But i respect the freewill of the individual.

And how. I can't pretend not to either. We're none of us perfect.

love him...he speaks the truth

His megalomania is 50% serious and 50% self-mockery. That's why people put up with it. Briliant
Besides all that Megalomania & Jester-like behaviour(which he may have learned from the elves )
he's been making some hard, direct statements in which he criticises & redicules society and the authorities
that lead/dictate them. And quite frankly he's just hitting home with all these society-critical statements.
You can't get around the fact that this man is critically & freely speeking the undecorated truth.


And for that he is so appreciated. I guess it's okay to claim you're a saviour/messiah, if you can actually
live up to those claims. So far he's been opening alot of people's eyes. Not bad, Russel, Not bad at all

I am less than tickled by Brand's brand of populist lather. It is hopelessly naive.

In the Paxman interview, he calls for a 'revolution' leading to a 'socialist egalitarian system' with centralized governments.
Um Russell darling, it's been tried before... with less than brilliant results.
Unless you feel that the USSR & China are exemplary models for the world for follow ??

I mean who really believes in the call to 'revolution' anymore? How many revolutions have to be co-opted in order to further repress the people supposed to have been liberated, before the people GROK that 'revolution' is merely that: a turn of the wheel, a changing of the guard.

Apparently Brand is now also a guest editor for a weekly British political magazine, The New Statesman, which has close ties to the Fabian Society - founded in 1884 at royal behest.

The Fabian Society promotes 'communitarianism/collectivism', a State-dominated synthesis of communism & capitalism also referred to by some (such as Tony Blair) as the 'Third Way'... the conspiracy-minded could do some digging here, but I'll eschew such pursuits in deference to Nexus guidelines...

Either way, I find such collectivist schemes to be abhorrent.

There are also some little tidbits floating around the internet regarding the elite social circles to which Brand has access, & that he dated/is dating a woman closely related to the infamous Rothschild family, etc etc. Hearsay perhaps

So ultimately I see Brand as an oblivious tool at best, & at worst a consciously groomed voice of 'controlled opposition' rousing the masses into a false awakening.

You use the word respect...and yet you abreviate my name into something that does not resemble my name. Dazzle, dood--even dazzler or doodad would be acceptable, but when you call me dazzer, I kind of feel dissed.

Meh, I won't hold it against you or take it too personally. Voting is one of those issues that people take to personally, like religion or whatever. For my part, I think you, and other liberal voters, are intelligent people and deserving of respect, minor differences of opinion not withstanding.

I do have other thoughts on the matter, but since people feel justified in messing with my name and even implying half-wittedness on my part, I'll just leave it alone. And namaste.

Regarding brands celebrity lifestyle:



One might compare that to an environmental protestor who drives a fuel guzzling car to a protest, perhaps. Or come up with a better example, if you prefer. Collectively as a species we've created a big mess--we try our best, within these circumstances. I think our society needs a few honest jesters to point out some of the pink elephants that the media ignores--one of those pink elephants happens to be this whole celebrity nonesense, hence Russel finds himself in a somewhat absurd position, I suppose.

Not quite sure what you mean Doodazzle. Seriouosly tho, he talks mostly about how people shouldn't worship celebrities, and being a celebrity and being worshiped as one are 2 completely different things. It's very possible that he just likes being a jokester in front of crowds and making people laugh, and is against the whole celebrities are gods mentality. Making the whole thing NOT a contradiction. He may not be correct on everything he says, but I dont hold that against people. Who is correct about a topic 100%?

I also don't see why you are getting offended. If you are being dissed, dont get pissed. You ok? You also spelled my name incorrectly. Anarchy would have been acceptable... but archy?
Doodad... lol

All this time I thought you named yourself after archy bunker! Sorry, j/k

And no, I'm certainly not pissed.

I am sorry if you took offence at my misuse of your name. It was actually meant in a nice way as i once had a friend called Darren, We abreviated it to Dazzle and sometimes Dazzer. I got carried away with your name in a misguided attempt to bond. Cross cultural humour can be misread; It had nothing to do with myself thinking your opinions on not voting being not worthy of respect. Not only that, but me feeling a halfwit for not trying to change things democratically has nothing to do with how i feel about how half witted you are. I think that you are being oversensitive about that.

Please give your other thoughts on the matter of voting/not voting. I will treat your name with the respect it deserves ;



What would you class as a real awakening?

Word--I actually just came on to make sure no-one was mad at anyone. Do pardon my misunderstanding. Have stuff to do tonight though, so I may not be online again till tomorrow. Peace out.

Russell Brand is a genius with incredible public speaking skills, no matter what. It doesn't matter what you think of his personal philosophy, his politics, or if you poorly of him for some other reason. What he does, nobody else can do quite like him. Nobody.

And on top of that, he does it after years of mental health problems, very, very severe drug addiction, legal problems, and the list goes on and on. His existence today is an ironic twist of fate. Everyone loves to hate him, but he is truly one of a kind.

I think the new rap news he appears in is something I totally concur with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VD33jRpeMM

While my sentiment regarding Brand is close to your own, in terms of history it is not factually true that a socialist egalitarian system has been tried. Socialist parties operating in republics do not equate to such an enterprise, nor can it actually be socialism when class division still exists, which is what Animal Farm pointed out so brilliantly, that hierarchy succumbs to aristocracy historically speaking.

And while I consider Brand ignorant for other reasons, I do appreciate his candor and attempt to be progressive despite the futility and ignorance of that message, in my opinion.

To be a bit more specific, many of the issues that we have with human culture are aspects that are essentially traits that facilitate survival in nature for a great many species. Greed for example, a squirrel gathers stores and hoards more nuts than it can consume, taking more than what it can manage, yet this act also ensures survival through winter. Many animals will, when food is freely available, over indulge and eat far too much harming themselves and shortening their lifespan. Ants of one hill will wage war with another hill, exterminating them or even enslaving them in some cases.

And while we as a species are arrogant and believe that we can somehow overcome our nature or that we are something other than animals, perhaps we should not be so quick to assume that we actually know what is in our own best interest as a species. Is peaceful and docile behavior really beneficial for us as a species? Many like to claim humanity is evolving, and i agree, but not to the effect of a particular goal or result, but in terms of adaptation to the pressures of nature, and nature is rather harsh, not entirely gentle, kind or generous. I think we tend to take nature for granted and forget our place in this world, and that we do this largely by imagining that we direct our adaptation or that we are intelligent enough to be able to do so, save it be in regard to the domestication of our species by our species as a farm animal, something that arguably was done very long ago.

in that same interview Russell Brand clearly states that he is just a comedian, that he is not the one to solve all of the worlds problems and that he is merely pointing them out and hoping some smart people will actually do something. Actually, I didn't like that sentence or two where he used the word 'revolution'. I don't want to hear that talk unless you have an actual plan, and Brand does not. Maybe he put his foot in his mouth for a second. So what? Wise fool, what that dude is.

(believe what you want y'all-- and brace yourselves!)




Hug46, fine I'll comment a little more on voting. The democrats and republicans have identical policies. Obamacare is a right-wing scheme. People know that, right? Google will bare me out on this one right quick. It was suggested in 1993. I can remember dubya suggesting it as well. And it's a big mess anyway--this body does not need any insurance, does not live in fear nor need a coorporate hand to catch it when it falls, screw that. And insurance companies and pharma running medicine, turning it in to a joke--but I shant digress.


The NDAA 2012, ever hear of that? Kind of similar to patriot act type stuff, right?

You know, it's almost as if the democrats and republicans are playing a simple game of good cop/bad cop, with both parties funded by the same elite.

It's almost as if voting is a sad little charade, another means of placating the masses.

Sometimes, I'd almost wonder....do we as human beings really need any centralized control--without it, oh man, fear the chaos! Anarchy in the streets! Cats and dogs playing together, total madness. But now I'm just flying my black flag right here. The human animal is not such a vicious wild beast that it needs a remote, centralized power to enforce us to behave--in fact, such rigid control i.e fascism promotes and creates those same violent tendencies which it pretends to protect us all from.

Believe what you want....I will again concede that maybe, perhaps voting does do some good. I was tempted to vote for Obama, the first time around. Then the whole fiasco, where he lied his keister off and tricked everybody, pretending to be against the worst implications of the NDAA 2012 and then it turning out that it was him/his cabinet that was rather insisting on inserting the most nepharious provisions within that abhorrent document. And all this after proclaiming to support what occupy was all about.
No I do not have a hard-on for Obama, nor do I believe for one second that the president is somehow 'the guy in charge'. Just grabbing hold of a convenient example.

I think that I summed this all up with the meme that I posted on page one.



No way my friends, it's a joke. Vote for the democrats--they'll get us out of these wars! No wait, they just keep the fighting going. It's almost as if we are all being lied to, somehow.

Fuck the good cop. He is holding hands under the table with the bad cop. Also, they seem to put anyone they want in power, regardless of who we vote for. Maybe someone is trying to steer this chaotic ship of fools. Good luck to them, I guess, but I aint playing. Do I sound like an apathetic half-wit? Maybe I sound angry--but I'm not.

Immense delight is to be had--once you turn off your tv and throw away your voting card.

I'll vote with my dollars--and with my lack of dollars too. Well, I try my best--difficult spot we are all in. Wanna know what feels good, and what can maybe help effect real change? Starting a community garden. Real joy, on real peoples faces--some of the best stuff I've ever been a part of. I'm talking little kids, smiling outside on the sun-light. The real vote here--is to not buy any coorporate garbage at all. Yes, I built this computer myself, from pine-cones and granola and clay! Well, I tries my best. Grow a garden, promote local community, quit the wage-slave game. I could go on and on here. The point is that there are real ways to make a change. And they are start with freedom and personal responsibility--centralized production and centralized control have zero to do with it.

As I said voting *may* *maybe* do some good. How would you or I know, for sure? On an emotional level though, I just can not bring myself to participate in what I see as an utterly fraudulent mockery of all that I love in this world.


Whelp. The above is all just my opinions. What do I know. Hug, my friend, somehow you drew all that out of me

I really do not need to convince anyone to believe what I believe, but, the above hopefully provides an answer as to Why the 'Doozler Does Not Vote!

I think where society, atleast the USA, fails is that we think our responsibilities end at voting. we dont bother to spread the truths and expose lies and unethical actions of the government to others. we might complsin on facebook or tell a couple friends, but whens the last time you had someone come to your door or speak at your school about the government doing wrong, lieing us, or wasting our money in specific ways? for me thats been never. people are too lazy to do anything that will make an impact. we all expect our fellow man to just find out and be angry about it. nobody tries to really organize the public and truley inform them (unless you're running for office). the system didnt fail on its own. we allowed it too people. (I am guilty of this as well).

Change begins with ideas, proceeds with dialog and is effected by action.

If we can overcome the efforts to divide we can be socially effectual using boycott, which i feel is the most effective technique we have at our disposal.

Indydude, You do not live in Portland, nor any other city in the pacific northwest. Lots of door knocking going on out there.

misunderstanding is in no need of a pardon



I understand your standpoint and i will admit to being fairly ignorant about US politics. In the UK there are 6 major political parties.
In the Uk it now seems that there is not much difference between the two biggest (and most likely to get in) parties but i sincerely believe that the party that is in power at the moment need removing ASAP. And it won"t happen unless people vote them out. I also feel that if public opinion changes, the politicians will change with it and that is why the influences of people like Russel Brand are important.

I will also admit that since living in France i havent voted in any major elections. Although i do vote in the elections for local mayor. If you have a problem all you need to do is go to the town hall and ask to see him. He"s an ok dude.



Anarchism very much appeals to me but i think that it requires quite an amount of individual responsibility and the majority of the population arn"t up to that IMO.



Better out than in.
If the truth be known i"m pretty shit out of answers on how a society should be run. But i do think, with increasing populations, we do need organising. When large groups cannot decide on a course of action the most natural and fair thing to me is to say "lets vote on it". I know it"s not perfect and i know that it is open to corruption but we are corruptible humans.

I guess the best that any of us can do is to follow what feels right at any given time.

Nope i live in northeast Indiana, where my values are horribly misplaced lol. i mean i live in a state trying to make an amendment to their constitution to ban same-sex marriage. I feel like i'm in a very backwards place most of the time. The last time someone knocked on my door was 3 years ago and it was a couple Jehovah witnesses who had no clue what they were talking about at all. I can't emphasize how much i dislike this state, super weird weather and some super ignorant people. The only good thing about this place is that we have a decent economy

Im with indydude and doodazzle.

The system is not F'd innately so much as it became F'd when everyone just drifted mindlessly away into honey boo boo, dancing with the stars, and other absurd crap on TV. It just snowballed from like a 2 inch size ball to an earth sized ball in less than a decade lol. I've always told people KILL YOUR TV! And then watching that compilation I posted when Russell said 'They want you talkin about Justin Bieber and twerking, they dont want you talking about fracking...here shut your f'in mouth you f'in moron and watch this!' I lol'd my balls off. Because its true, and no matter how passively yet intently you try to show people that theyre a robot they just go all stockholm syndrome on you, they just don't even see it. And to me, I don't get how you cant see it. Many dont care, many go the cognitive dissonance route, many just choose to ignore because its easier, but some flat out just dont see it. And to me, as a human, I cant even wrap my mind around being that tuned out. A rock is more alive than some of these people because at least a rock is busy doing it's job perfectly, just being a rock.

I watch between 2-10 hours of TV per month, and the only show I care to watch consistently is Top Gear UK, which I dont even get to do often at all. I enjoy Morgan Freeman's Through the Wormhole and other similar shows about whats going on in either astronomy or the quantum/theoretical world. Thats all I spend my hours monthly of TV on.