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starway6
#1 Posted : 1/15/2014 2:49:50 AM

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Hi .. This is my first time using Hydrocloric acid in any extraction...
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I did it carefully out doors.. first reducing the 35 percent muratic acid to 10 percent...

Im trying to extract crystals from mescaline cacti..its suposed to be [T Peruvianus]

When tasted it fresh.. It didnt taste very bitter at all.. and was doubting if it had any mescaline in it?

my recent post..explains .. in post ..[muratic acid verses citric acid]?

In that post i was using citric acid with mixed results/and feared that i had a lot of citric acid ..[or all citric acid]..in my final product?

So now i tryed using muratic acid that I reduced from 35 percent down to 10 percent by using ..[three parts distilled water ..and one part muratic acid]...or [60ml water [20ml muratic acid]
I then used a dropper and put 5 or 6 drops of the ..10 percent. [Muratic acid] in my 60ml distilled water...
After mixing the exylene pull and acidic water ....
[and alowing compleate seperation of layers] i removed the top porton of exylene with a pipett.and removed cleanly the acidified water and put into a clean jar...

The acid water looks milky just as the citric acid mix did..

But now using muratic acid this time it looks diferent... because upon swirling the water around i see hundreds of little white specks ..looks like a snow flurry swirling around in jar!

dont see anything sticking yet to glass but maybe it will be by morning???

I cant blame the white snowy stuff on citric acid this time because i used muratic .acid

I would apreciate if anyone with experiance using meratic acid for mescaline extraction would look at the photos below...

Should this swirling snow be mescaline?

IF.. by morning nothing is sticking to the glass .but the snow is still floating heavy in the water....will evaporation bring the crystals forth?
And..

If I evaporate the 60 mls of water containing only 6 drops of [10 percent muratic acid]..

do i still have to evaporate outdoors ..[for saftey]..with such a small diluted amount of acid?

Please observe still photos below of hundreds of swirling white specks..as i swirled the jar...does this look like mescaline free base?.. Please any help apreciated
Thank you..
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starway6
#2 Posted : 1/15/2014 4:05:39 PM

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starway6 wrote:
Hi .. This is my first time using Hydrocloric acid in any extraction...
\
I did it carefully out doors.. first reducing the 35 percent muratic acid to 10 percent...

Im trying to extract crystals from mescaline cacti..its suposed to be [T Peruvianus]

When tasted it fresh.. It didnt taste very bitter at all.. and was doubting if it had any mescaline in it?

my recent post..explains .. in post ..[muratic acid verses citric acid]?

In that post i was using citric acid with mixed results/and feared that i had a lot of citric acid ..[or all citric acid]..in my final product?

So now i tryed using muratic acid that I reduced from 35 percent down to 10 percent by using ..[three parts distilled water ..and one part muratic acid]...or [60ml water [20ml muratic acid]
I then used a dropper and put 5 or 6 drops of the ..10 percent. [Muratic acid] in my 60ml distilled water...
After mixing the exylene pull and acidic water ....
[and alowing compleate seperation of layers] i removed the top porton of exylene with a pipett.and removed cleanly the acidified water and put into a clean jar...

The acid water looks milky just as the citric acid mix did..

But now using muratic acid this time it looks diferent... because upon swirling the water around i see hundreds of little white specks ..looks like a snow flurry swirling around in jar!

dont see anything sticking yet to glass but maybe it will be by morning???

I cant blame the white snowy stuff on citric acid this time because i used muratic .acid

I would apreciate if anyone with experiance using meratic acid for mescaline extraction would look at the photos below...

Should this swirling snow be mescaline?

IF.. by morning nothing is sticking to the glass .but the snow is still floating heavy in the water....will evaporation bring the crystals forth?
And..

If I evaporate the 60 mls of water containing only 6 drops of [10 percent muratic acid]..

do i still have to evaporate outdoors ..[for saftey]..with such a small diluted amount of acid?

Please observe still photos below of hundreds of swirling white specks..as i swirled the jar...does this look like mescaline free base?.. Please any help apreciated
Thank you..


Is anyone around that can advise me on questions in above post witch i included photos?
 
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#3 Posted : 1/16/2014 6:22:37 AM

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Yes, it is quite possible (and very likely if you're specimen was indeed T. peruvianus and you followed the tek to the letter) that the white "snowflakes" could be mescaline.

Whatever method you're using to precipitate, I've never heard of it. I would just evaporate the solution on a glass baking dish, but I'm no expert. That's just what all the teks I have read suggest.

A solution of HCl in water that is diluted to that point should be fine to evaporate without producing any toxic vapors. I asked the same question on my first mescaline extraction and a member who is very experienced with cactus extraction, as well as a plethora of other plant extractions, said not to worry about it.

And whatever you do, don't throw out that first pull that's contaminated with citric acid!! Re-base, re-pull, and re-salt. Or just throw it back in your extraction vessel and retrieve it with your next few pulls.

On a side note, please try to wait a couple of days and continue doing your own research during that time before double posting/bumping your own thread.

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starway6
#4 Posted : 1/17/2014 3:32:41 AM

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Im not shure its mescaline because in photos above where it apeared to be a sno flurry when i swirled the liquid..I noticed something strange!
What I noticed was the stuff that looked like snow ..when swirled in photo above ...would settel on [[top of the acidified water]] when i set the jar down?
[simmiler to a puddle of oil?..
That didnt look right to me.. isnt mescaline suposed to settel to the bottom and stick to glass..
 
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#5 Posted : 1/17/2014 4:20:20 AM
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best guess Smile

unlikely as mescaline in that form is very water soluble.
salt contam i recon (sodium hydroxide and hydrochloric acid)
dry some out if it tastes salty and not very biter you'll know

wait a lil longer before decanting the nps- it needs to be clear before pulling and be careful no basic ends up w/the nps
 
 
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