hello

ok here is an odd question.

once you strip away the experienc itself, the things you feel and see, what actually physically happens to you when this stuff is in your system?

specificly i am wondering how this stuff influences your sensory perception, your reaction time, most people seems to notice subtle difference in shade and tone, you become very aware of the things around you, until they become so overwhelming that you try to throw up projections of your psyche to protect yourself, possibly to hold onto a vestment of who you are as your overwhelmed by the sensation.

what im wondering is that the chemical itself is inert, on its own it doesnt do anything, its only once it fits into its receptors that something happens so what exactly does happen to your nervious system?

thank you.

It certainly does something to light perception. Possibly by way of dilating the pupils.

When you look at a full moon there is a slight glow or aura around it. This is caused by the reflection of sunlight. Normally, when you see this the aura it gives off a blueish light. It is the shortest wavelength of light so that one is dominant over all the other lights the sun gives off.

Try observing this glow around the moon while on DMT. I saw atleast three colours now; A little bit of blue, (i think green, maybe yellow/orange) and definitely red. Which is interesting, normally you are not supposed to see red. This is the longest visible wavelength compared to blue.

Street lights that are close to you are normally Yellow. Whilist on DMT the colour is very deep red. It makes for a beautiful sight at night.

2. Another significant change in sensory perception for me is that i have long hair. After a dmt trip i always feel my hair brushing on my neck and i get very sensitive to it. Unlike any other sensation i ever felt.

While it may affect light perception, I think it's almost a superficial point when we get to the heart of a breakthrough. The distinct religious and cultural imagery (from practices and cultures that are not one's own or that one doesn't have to be familiar with) I feel seem to be some of the biggest pink elephants in the room. I'd like to know where that information is coming from, and I very highly doubt it has much to do with an abnormally functioning visual cortex.

Deep in breakthrough territory I seem to have perceptions that are completely impossible when sober and go WAY outside the realm of the 5 senses.

360 degree vision
Lots of touch at a distance perceptions. Such as being able to feel hyperspatial objects flip over or inside out
Stuff that seems like synesthesia. Hearing colors, tasting sounds, etc.
PErceptions that are completely non classifiable by any mix of senses and seem to be a new kind of perception.

Alot of it is really hard to describe. But the best I can do is saying that DMT[high dose] pretty much bypasses the 5 senses and is sending pure electrical signals to your brain or third eye.

ok im glad i wasnt fishing in empty waters, thank you all for responding, i just have this idea that your threshold sensitivity to stimuli goes way down, making it so not only your perception, but your basic survival ability is put at the highest point possible, this idea would corrolate with the reason your body produces it in the first place (disruption of the metabolism in your lungs causes the inmt activation) and that it would be a final ditch attempt to jump start your nervious sytem back into working order so that you come back to life (im speculating of course)

that said their may be practical application to giving people a dose when their heart stops to increase the conductivity and chances of getting it started again, maybe as a mixture in an epinephrine pen, given its antinflamatory effects i could see it being very useful in this for for people having alergy attacks, but then again im just speculating.

as for the actual information you recieve and the fact that the imagery, even without for knowledge or exposure is so similar across multiple cultures is a striking fact which i wish was easier to study, but what i have to wonder is if the information is part of your psyche or if our psyche is a distraction trying to prevent us from understanding the information (probably because understanding it would destroy irrelivant facets of our ego)

i dont know if it is generated by out minds or it is caused by the inheirent understanding of the geometric structure underlying our psychiology, maybe their would be a process by mapping out the designs of the patterns using strings or pen and paper (though having the fortitude to write while in that state is a achievment into itself).

but in the end i have to wonder why our bodies have adapted to have as profound of a reaction as it does to such a basic compound, and how we can come to terms in reconciling the beauty we have seen with the world in which we live in.

thank you for listening.

No one knows for certain what's happening in the brain of someone who is on DMT, however, I have a hunch.

People have done MRI studies of individuals under the influence of psilocybin (which is degraded into the psychoactive molecule 4-HO-DMT in the gut), and found that certain key regulatory areas of the brain were inhibited. This gives rise to the theory that perhaps, while under the influence of a psychedelic, the brain loses the ability to reign in the processing of information and sensory information starts flowing to places that it might not otherwise naturally go.

If DMT behaves like 4-HO-DMT (and I see no reason why it shouldn't), then perhaps DMT just does what 4-HO-DMT does, only a much higher degree. My theory is that, when under the influence of DMT, the regulatory areas of the brain are almost completely shut down, causing an overwhelming flood of information.

The subjective experience of all that information would be the chaotic and alien world of hyperspace.

Blessings
~ND

In addition to the cross cultural aspects which are highly compelling, there is also the matter of multidimensional geometry. This is an entire class of geometry that generally few people are aware of beyond mathematicians and some tesseract youtube enthusiasts, that is barely possible to remember or assemble in the imagination for those who have just seen it, and yet it is quite the common feature of the DMT experience it should seem. Only the tesseract is to the cube as the multidimensional entities/objects/architecture/landscape are to the three dimensional referential objects/entities/architecture/landscape of this world. It would be like to say the picture on your screen looking at all this text right now is only made of up squares...which actually is kinda true (all of those microscopic pixels) but on the other hand, it's the way they all come together in highly arranged fashions that allow you to decode information from this text or appreciate virtual images on the computer screen. Likewise, for all the multidimensionality that we can behold on youtube (for which there really isn't all that much) no one really takes it so far as to create "believable" multidimensional arrangements of other things that are representational - that look like something and not simply the product of some mathematical algorithms or geometric theorems. I just really find it most intriguing how this virtually unknown class of geometry of which many who encounter it in hyperspace were completely unaware it previously existed is incredibly peculiar to me.

^, that is the reason i believe the source of hyperspace to be 4th dimensional space. A lot of these true hyperspatial entities speak to us from 4th dimensional space. How we get there however, is beyond me but these kind of experiences plus the fact that we don't know what is outside the observable universe makes me believe there is an outside to the universe that is 4 dimensional. Our universe is the cube, outside is the tessarect.

However, i had something to say about the brain. I am starting to think that the brain is essentially a sensory organ.

I completely agree with Nathanial.Dread here, these studies on 4-HO-DMT revealed that the brain crosses over certain pathways that are normally inhibited. No-knowing mentioned synesthesia and what you get when you inhibit these crossovers is that the visual part of the brain starts opening connections with the I.E the auditory parts of the brain. Effectively allowing for synesthesia. It is not a long stretch to imagine multidimensional visualizations start occuring in much the same way.

I haven't been able to find any EEG studies on break-through DMT experiences but ayahuasca studies in EEG show that the brain shows a lot of alpha waves on ayahuasca.

When the eyes are open and photons reach the eyes the brain translates these signals into a visual presentation of a 3D world which translates into a lot of alpha activity.

When you shut these eyes there is no more photons reaching the eyes to signal brain about the 3D world so the brain does not produce this alpha activity and immediately shifts to lesser activity.

Which makes me think that these alpha signals measured with ayahuasca is information that comes from another source to the brain that is normally inhibited unless DMT makes an entrance. I suspect a different kind of Electromagnetic signalling occurs. I don't know about break-throughs but who knows what the brain is capable of producing when you reach GAMMA wave activity and full synesthesia.

Btw, has someone ever smelled hyperspace?

Infectedstyle, I have definitely experienced otherworldly smells mixed with other senses or just by themself, and, VERY intense compared to sober smell.

Im totally with Global. I have never considered myself a religious person. My first experience: after a few moments of swirling geometrical patterns, I then traveling thru this amber geometrically intertwined pipe line, after this, out of this mandala-like pulsating background, into view fizzled a figure which resembled Ganesh.

Ive NEVER in my free time, not once, pondered Ganesh haha. How/why/where did Ganesh come from? Though I still don't consider myself religious, that was incredible to me. That by itself had me pretty convinced that theres a lot more out there than nothing.

Also, the geometry and the infinitely folding patterns. Like REALLY, COME ON! Where the poop does it come from haha. There are truly no words to convey why what happens happens and how unbelievable incredible it is.

As for time, I find that fascinating also. Time just ceases to exist. 5 minutes feels like one second less than forever.

If I might note HumbleTraveler, I have never seen Ganesh myself (Hindu imagery, but never any deities, nor Ganesh), however I have taken note that on this site, it should seem that when many people have encountered Ganesh, it is on their first experiences, and I find this to be particularly interesting and significant considering that Ganesh is considered to be an Initiator and Keeper of Gateways and such. If you haven't already, I would do some research on Ganesh for your own understanding (perhaps you'll notice something common about your experience with the mythology) and additionally, I would run a simple search here on the Nexus for Ganesh and note how (if at all) your experience compares to others. While I have encountered cross-cultural deities who I did not know exist, and was able to verify after, they don't seem to be so commonly encountered as with Ganesh, and so I can't really compare notes with others, but I'll have you know you have a wealth of Nexians you can relate and talk to.

Yes! After seeing Ganesh, I immediately researched him and found that info out; how he is the god of new beginnings and remover of obstacles. Upon reading that, for lack of better words, I shat my pants haha.

It was only on the first experience that I saw him, and only the first. Truly a very, very moving experience with no words to properly credit the experience.

I created a new thread just now, compiling all the written up initiatory Ganesh(a) experiences the search would give me, and there were a lot more than I thought. I got 26!