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Mitakuye Oyasin
#1 Posted : 12/6/2013 9:13:06 AM

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If one were to do an extraction of 1KG powder which would be best to use? Peruvian Torch, T Bridgesii or T Pachanoi? Thanks for any suggestions.
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#2 Posted : 12/6/2013 11:11:33 AM

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Mitakuye Oyasin wrote:
If one were to do an extraction of 1KG powder which would be best to use? Peruvian Torch, T Bridgesii or T Pachanoi? Thanks for any suggestions.


Of the cacti I have my peruvians are by far the smoothest experience. I believe the Bridgesii has yielded alkaloids, but the experience doesn't feel as clean to me. Of course 'clean' is a subjective thing.

At this point as I harvest I'm only keeping my peruvians going forward. Favorite way to do them is to just make a tea and drink. Extracted alkaloids are ok as well, but the tea is the better experience IMHO.

One thing to note is that my peruvians grow a good bit slower than the others, but I guess I'm OK with that as I enjoy the experience much more with them.

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#3 Posted : 12/6/2013 11:25:22 AM

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I found the bridgessii to be the stronger of all three. then the two other can be equivalent.
Personnlay I'd go for bridgessii againas I could feel effect from 5 grams dry outer skin.
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Mitakuye Oyasin
#4 Posted : 12/6/2013 9:29:56 PM

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Thanks guys. rOm - is your avatar Eddie from Iron Maiden as Popeye? If so where can I find a larger version of that image online?
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#5 Posted : 12/9/2013 5:32:47 PM

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Mitakuye Oyasin wrote:
If one were to do an extraction of 1KG powder which would be best to use? Peruvian Torch, T Bridgesii or T Pachanoi? Thanks for any suggestions.

As far as what is commonly available in most places, I would say the bridgesii is gonna be your best bet. That said, there are peruvianus and pachanois that can be comparable or possibly stronger, but the trouble is that it's rare to encounter them most places.
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#6 Posted : 12/9/2013 7:06:16 PM

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IMO, the quality of peruvianus (often reputed to be the strongest Trich, or maybe "on average" the strongest) is all over the place. I have friends, pros in the horticulture world, who would contend that it is actually, on average, of lesser quality than a good pach. Part of the problem I would say is identification....these pach's and peruv's as well as several other supposed species like the cuzcoensis, look very similar to each other and are often mistaken with each other even by professionals....and you have to think, too, that there is some cross-fertilization going on that further complicates things.

That said, when you find a good Trich specimen, and in my experience that has been pach and bridgesii, if you stick to it that should give you almost consistently good results (I am also convinced that good plant food, and control of harvesting conditions can make a big difference.)

I would also say that the bridgesii is easier for most of us to identify with its thinner profile, longer (dark, bacteria-tipped) thorns, and commonly grey-green skin. They can be very strong. The alkaloid profile is to me more acid-like than a smooth-as-silk pachanoi, but then, you don't have to get overly picky about THAT!
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Mitakuye Oyasin
#7 Posted : 12/9/2013 7:34:30 PM

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Thanks for the new comments and suggestions. :-)
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