So I bought this vapor pen and have used it 3 times with some off white shiny spice. not so effective the first 2 goes but the 3rd time yes, but mild.

Here's my issue which will ultimately result the feed back from my fellow Nexians. I don't have a scale to properly weigh a dose. For all 50+ experiences I always have to guess the dose and with experimenting with jim jam, yellow, tan, off white and white spice I assume the dosage varies.

So this pen seems to work well. The first two times I suppose I didn't load enough. and the 3rd still not enough but I did enjoy it. but when I decide to partake I like to go far.

In any event I know I'll be told "get a sacle!!" LOL, I know. But I guess my real question is "is 50mg really considered a high dose?" I consider myself to be experienced with spice. And I like to have extremely powerful experiences. Has anyone tried 75mg or 100mg?

I would answer that by saying that anyone vaporizing 50 mgs who isn't finding the experience to be extremely powerful simply ain't doin' it right. I would also say that you are unlikely to reach that depth or level of intensity with that particular device, although I'm sure you can get it to work with some practice.

My experience with using a pen is that you have to try really hard not to burn it! This was my big problem with it. I like it when my hits milk up real nice as I drag. With the vape pen its like you have to press the button for a half a sec, inhale, press for half a sec, inhale, so forth. The level of intensity? Breakthrough is possible but everyone who has tried it that I know and myself agree that it just isn't as intense of an experience. And I don't really weigh doses, especially when we were using the vape pen, just put some on and let it melt till you got a good amount. Because I think that by the end you probably wont smoke all if you break through with this. Or at least thats how we did it, just throw on a bunch and toke. Of course a lot of people would hate me for that, but it worked!

How are you placing dmt into this thing? I have one and wasn't even able to smoke weed or changa in it. It didn't produce enough heat. This while using a variable voltage KGO battery.

Maybe the choreboy trick would be helpful in getting everything vaporized quick enough without burning in a device like this?

Interesting theory on holding the button for a half second, then repeat. But I've always broken through with one big hit, and that's the way I prefer.

I'm loading up the piece with more capacity, the one with the spring. Putting in what seems to be well over a breakthrough dose for me. I'm guessing I'm burning it. This pen probably doesn't work well for the more unstable forms of spice and by that I mean the more reXed stuff. I could see this working well for some sticky tar jim jam or even the sticky yellow stuff. Changa would probably work great too. I guess its back to the pipe for now. I will post when my progress.

I need a scale!

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