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EarthBounded
#1 Posted : 11/21/2013 8:00:53 PM

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The nexus is a great place but I do not receive proper responses in the new member section I am restricted to so I am posting this all around

First off according to this in 1996 Harmine and Harmaline were not scheduled in the USA
http://www.erowid.org/pl...an_rue_extraction2.shtml

Would this extract be legal to sell in the USA?

NUBE question, Do harmine and harmalines contain MAOI's or do these differ from caapi extremely

Second. I need a good good AYA suggestion. I drank the brew twice and it was an awesome experience the purging and vomiting are something else it is medicinal in the sense of purging evil but right now I just need AYA to let my mind be free I have done enough purging for now… I have noticed aya helps a lot from MDMA recovery and LSD long term effects, kind of like Mushrooms in a sense, it leaves you back on a natural plain IMO.

I have 100g Ceilo Mckenna Caapi
100g Syrian rue
and 50 g Diplopterys Cabrerana

I want to keep this as natural and as strong as possible

Is there a good way to boil this down so it is more potent, I have had to drink three cups to break through I cannot do that anymore, I fast and don't eat dairy etc… but holy shit, the smell of AYA alone makes me want to just projectile vomit.

So what is my best route to get the best aya trip out of what I have.
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expandaneum
#2 Posted : 11/21/2013 8:59:35 PM

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I do not receive proper responses in the new member section I am restricted to so I am posting this all around


don't do this Thumbs down the nexus is not a place to "post all around"

Quote:
NUBE question, Do harmine and harmalines contain MAOI's or do these differ from caapi extremely


do your (very) basic searching before posting

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Second. I need a good good AYA suggestion. I drank the brew twice and it was an awesome experience the purging and vomiting are something else it is medicinal in the sense of purging evil but right now I just need AYA to let my mind be free I have done enough purging for now…


again at least try to search
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112233
#3 Posted : 11/21/2013 10:50:23 PM

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EarthBounded wrote:


Is there a good way to boil this down so it is more potent, I have had to drink three cups to break through I cannot do that anymore, I fast and don't eat dairy etc… but holy shit, the smell of AYA alone makes me want to just projectile vomit.




Do you have DMT crystals or changa? I've found the best way to increase the potency of a brew is to simply smoke some changa in the middle if an aya voyage.
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EarthBounded
#4 Posted : 11/22/2013 1:45:01 AM

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112233 wrote:
EarthBounded wrote:


Is there a good way to boil this down so it is more potent, I have had to drink three cups to break through I cannot do that anymore, I fast and don't eat dairy etc… but holy shit, the smell of AYA alone makes me want to just projectile vomit.




Do you have DMT crystals or changa? I've found the best way to increase the potency of a brew is to simply smoke some changa in the middle if an aya voyage.



Nope I am working with raw plant matter, bark and seeds.

expandaneum wrote:
Quote:
I do not receive proper responses in the new member section I am restricted to so I am posting this all around


don't do this Thumbs down the nexus is not a place to "post all around"

Quote:
NUBE question, Do harmine and harmalines contain MAOI's or do these differ from caapi extremely


do your (very) basic searching before posting

Quote:
Second. I need a good good AYA suggestion. I drank the brew twice and it was an awesome experience the purging and vomiting are something else it is medicinal in the sense of purging evil but right now I just need AYA to let my mind be free I have done enough purging for now…


again at least try to search


Exactly why I post around, there is nothing wrong with posting here BL and shroomery, I just want correct information. I have done proper research in fact hours of research, my questions are nube status but completely appropriate and every question I ask in the new member area about DMT and AYA never gets answered, I get a lot more help on the shroomery but I was giving this site a chance…. But hey thanks for absolutely no informationThumbs up

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ymer
#5 Posted : 11/22/2013 2:08:34 AM

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EarthBounded wrote:

I have done proper research in fact hours of research, my questions are nube status but completely appropriate and every question I ask in the new member area about DMT and AYA never gets answered, I get a lot more help on the shroomery but I was giving this site a chance…. But hey thanks for absolutely no informationThumbs up


I doubt that you have done enough research, everything that you asked can be answered if you use the search function on this forum and also checking the wiki section.

The reason that you are not getting the responses that you are asking here is the same reason why you should go back to shroomery.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Attitude_Page
 
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#6 Posted : 11/22/2013 9:59:02 AM

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All of your questions could be answered by reading one, maybe two threads in the ayahuasca subforum. Unfortunately posting new threads of extremely basic questions, without taking any time to read the threads that already exist, does not equal "hours of research". All of your questions could be answered by doing 15 to 30 minutes of reading, at most.
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Jox
#7 Posted : 11/22/2013 3:38:15 PM

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Hi Earthbounded,


1. I don't know legality of the substances.

2. Harmalas are MAOI

3. your Q on how to make a strong brew out of what you have:

I have 100g Ceilo Mckenna Caapi
100g Syrian rue
and 50 g Diplopterys Cabrerana

without vomit wont work.

first two plants are MAOI, and the second is DMT but the count is low, and the strength depends, I would get some Mimosa for DMT.

It may sound "unnatural" but I do pharmahuasca, for harmalas, and for dmt I do a cold brew. No vomits, no nausea.

Let me know if you need more info.

take care
Jox

ps

on nexus, in wiki section you get some definitions, as well as many extraction teks. There is no section on how to make brews, and these are all over the place, in many threads and sections. But for general questions that may be unclear use google or DuckDuckgo to do more research on the web.

 
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#8 Posted : 11/22/2013 5:13:51 PM

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(I´m just talking to myself)

I think it is very important to "know what I am doing", especially when it concerns strongest hallucinogens on this planet that can potentially seriously f%@k me for real. I know that if I don´t do "my homework" (= do a proper research, i.e. read a lot on the topic), I am in big danger: I know I may seriously hurt myself by either poisoning myself (see Ayahuasca diet), or ingesting more than I will ever be able to integrate (dosage, correct recepie, correct way of administration, best timing etc...)

I don´t want to hurt myself, so I will do my homework:
(1) spend hours if not days by researching the Net
(2) be VERY CAREFUL with the dosage, as I know it is always better to start low...

Please don´t take this personally, EarthBounded, but from what you wrote I got a feeling that you are on a path to a disaster...
 
 
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