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Jox
#1 Posted : 11/15/2013 12:27:19 AM

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Hi all,

It is not clear to me if washing with destiled water I am dissolving harmaine or harmaline?

Lets say I have precipitations with ph 12, whatever alkaloids there may be.

wash 1st ph will drop to 10
wash 2nd ph will drop to 9
wash 3rd ph will drop to 8
wash 4 ph will drop to 7

at ph 7 did I loose some of needed harmalas?

By reading other posts I somehow concluded that I should not wash with destilled water, but just go A/B until infinidum... which I just did, But I didn't end up with nearly as clean product as I have if I do washes up to ph 7.

whats your take?
Jox
 

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Jox
#2 Posted : 11/16/2013 3:00:23 AM

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so it seems that there is no objection,
soon I will post my
new extraction tek
no cooking, no reducing, no endless filtering, quick and easy

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#3 Posted : 11/16/2013 12:25:12 PM

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Yes with every wash you most likely lose a bit of harmaline because it is slightly more polar.
 
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#4 Posted : 11/16/2013 8:18:14 PM

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hi endlessness,

I thought so, so in my tek I will have it optional.

the idea is to limit filtering and cooking, its a cold tek, but I still need some more pics so until next extracton time.

thank you
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#5 Posted : 11/17/2013 8:21:24 AM

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Also, distilled water is acidic in nature, further increasing loss of actives (and also lowers your ph as you saw)


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#6 Posted : 11/21/2013 1:41:24 AM
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Yeah you lose harmaline. I extracted about 130 grams of alkaloids from 2 kg rue. With the washing this was reduced to 80. When selectively precipitating harmaline, it appeared that ~3 grams was harmaline, and 77 grams harmine.
I flushed all my harmaline through the drain. That's why I'm extracting another kg of rue at the moment to recover more harmaline in order to convert it to THH.
 
 
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