I'm pleased to announce that I finally broke through for the first time yesterday. I was able to repeat it two more times, going back for a total of 3 time throughout the day. The method used was a vaporizer bag with a harmala/spice mix. A friend and fellow member was walking me through my first extraction. In between the waiting steps, I went for journey. I categorize the 3 places I visited as The Courtyard, The Dancer, and The Clown/Bio-dome. I'll describe each visit below.

The first time I didn't even realize that I had broken through. I was taken through a short trip through some hallways and ended up in this courtyard area. While I didn't observe the building, I had this understanding of where I was, in this large house and that the courtyard was in the middle. I felt like I had always been here. There was no concept that this was a new place. Everything was very thick in proportion, like Michelin Man kinda thing. Movement vaguely resembled that of playing Mario 64. Not exactly, but that's was best as I can describe it. In this courtyard, there were several entities. I got the impression that they were children-ish, but with adult knowledge, if that makes sense. There was a table where they were having a tea time and wanted me to join. There was a playful dragon type entity that was being silly and wanted to show off for me. Dragon may not be the right word, not long and slender, but green and bulbous, kind of like Yoshi from Mario - not sure why the Mario reference keeps coming up but I think it's something most people will recognize. Surrounding the courtyard area, it was 2 stories, with an upper balcony and then the lower hallway/walkway with some doors along the sides. There was no sense of self. I had no concept of having a body in this place, it was as if I were simply observing through a lense, but the others were definitely glad I was there. One of them wanted to pull me around in their wagon. Finally it was time to go. We started to head down a hallway at the end of the courtyard and that's when it started to fizzle out and fall away. I finally moved my body, or realized that I had a body, and popped my eyes open. The room I was in felt so foreign. I looked at my friend(a fellow member) and realized what had happened. Still tripping hard, I was able to muster “oh my... I just broke through...” and laid back to try and make sense of everything that had just happened. I had tears rolling down my face and could help but laugh in pure astonishment. It was a beautiful experience, and one that I really hoped I could repeat. I wanted to go back there to visit my friends again...

The second time was a couple of hours later. The entry was similar in that it faded into this hallway that feathers and fractals out as it guides you in that way that DMT does. It was a familiar place. I knew that I was in that same house or whatever as I was before. I understood that the courtyard was ahead and to the left, but we turned to the right and ended up in this large open room. It was like some kind of ballroom. I got the sense that there was, or should have been, a large grand piano in the room but it was mostly empty, except for the one feminine entity that was dancing for me. The whole rest of the time was just her performing for me. The dancing was sort of reminiscent of a cross between a sensual belly dancer and the air-sock dancer guy that you see at car dealerships. A strange performance, indeed. It was another beautiful experience.

The third and final trip was after dark. We had just finished dinner and the extraction was complete for the day – just letting the naptha evap off over night. As I sat back in the chair and hit the bag, I hoped to once again go back to the same place. As I felt it taking hold and shaking away this reality, I took in that last hit and held it deep. I sunk into the chair and released as I relaxed and entered hyperspace. I came into what I understood to now be the front of the house I had been in previously. It was like a large mansion type house with stairs that led up to the house with white pillars and such. The driveway was one of brick circle drives with a large fountain in the middle. There were probably a half-dozen entities there dancing around playfully. There was like a delivery truck/van in the driveway, as one of the dancers pulled open the rear door to show me what was inside, and shut it just as fast, before I could make anything out. I kept waiting to go up the stairs and into the house, which was firward but slight to the right. We ended up going to the left which turned into a little bit of a hallway. Everything began to turn overwhelmingly white. The walls turned white, and this time my guide was long, slender clown. His face was slim with face paint similar to the classic Joker. Not scary, just playful and taking me on a tour. His clown suit was white with thin black pinstripes. At the end of his clown hat and around his cuffs and whatnot he had bright red and blue balls. It was all just part of his costume. His limbs were very long as if he were on stilts, but he was able to bend them like they were his actual limbs. He changed from walking on his 2 legs, to spidering around on all fours as we came out of the hallway into this large white room. It was all very wintery white, but enclosed. It felt like a green house with a white sandy desert environment. I don't quite remember everything that was going on in this place, but I understood that this was like... his playground. Everything was great and positive, and then right around this point there was a rather abrupt change in the music, courtesy of Pandora, which caused the whole scene to jolt out like the way the channel would change on the old number dial TVs. It instantly just cut over to this new scene where it was very dark and I could see lightning. I felt like there was a set of train tracks and there was a train speeding towards me. It was an overwhelming sense of impending doom. I was beginning to fall out at this point though. As reality began to fizzle back... I began to get up to try and change hit 'next' on Pandora but I was not yet back enough to get up and have that kind of motor control, so I laid back down on the carpet next to my bro as I tried to figure out what that meant. I think it was just the abrupt, sharp change in the music.

In the end, it was a wonderful experience. I'm happy that I am able to break through now and I'm not afraid to go back. Such a great time. Please feel free to comment or ask questions if you'd like me to expand on anything. I'll be happy to explain as best as I can.

It sounds like a great experience. I don't think Pandora is terribly ideal for this kind of a thing. Even when selecting your own music, you gotta be careful of the timing of the song (is it gonna last the whole trip or not?) and if it doesn't last the whole trip or if the experience lasts longer than you intended, you gotta have something wise lined up to play next. If you listen to music during your experiences, I would put some thoughtful planning into it beyond the arbitrary nature of Pandora.

I agree for the most part. I do have one Pandora channel that is pretty much dedicated to tripping. It has been tuned an awful lot and it is nearly always perfect. It just happened to go from a very melodic song ending to an abrupt beginning to a new song that threw it off. For future use I'll probably have a predefined playlist set up, or play one of the chillout lounge tracks on youtube so there's no unexpected changes like that.

All in all an overwhelmingly positive experience though. Thanks for the feedback.

LaoTzu ...
Sounds like you had three intense dreams using waking reality as a model?
Did you experiance ..intense fractals .. carrier wave sounds..vortexes ..colors..hyperspace like experiances NOT using waking reality as a model in any way?
I mean..most dmt experiances do report their experiances in hyperspace as other worldly and alien like with beings that look insect like in apearence?
I guess DMT can reveil itself in a dream like experiance because Nick Sands reported dream like experiances too in his dmt experiances..
Any way it sounds like you certanly did break through!

ps...Did you use acacia confusa spice ..or..mimosa spice???

Thats awesome thanks for sharing it with us.

Well, I try to explain it as a relation to waking reality, but it's appearance was anything but. Everything fractals and changes as soon as you realize what something is, it changes just as quickly. I just find it easiest to describe the experience that way.



This was acacia confusa spice. As I said, the first breakthrough was really kind of an accident, and it was only with 25mg. The 2nd was with 40, and the third was around 28. The amount seemed to not make the experience any more or less intense - perhaps just affecting the duration. I don't know if that's common consensus, but that seemed to be where I was. Once I had broken through, I was just there. Next time I'll probably start with 25mg again and if I get through, I'll probably jump to 50mg the second time and see if there is any noticeable difference.

Your experiance sounded very cool!
Thanks for your response!

Seems like i have to do some extracting! Great read man!

If you dont mind me asking what type of bag vape did you use? and at what temperature? I've got an Extreme Q Vaporizer and I'm hoping I can use this, but after looking around it seems as though people are getting mixed results.

I just wanna say, DON'T. If you get the 50mg dose in its complete and proper form... I shudder at the thought. I shudder.

I also have very dream like experiences, often based on reality, sometimes very far from reality. Either way, they are always 'otherworldly'. I also often get very sensual dancers that greet me, and friendly clowns.

Lao Tzu, thanks for sharing your journeys. I enjoying reading them!

These breakthroughs were done with the Herbal Aire vaporizer. I'm not sure what the temp was, it's my friends vaporizer so he loaded it. I have the GVG now for personal use. Though I really like the bag method. I'd like to get my own, they're just expensive.



I agree with you now. I think I was a bit over-eager. I tried my newly delivered GVG on Friday evening with 30 and had a very angry, very terrifying experience. I haven't written it up... but it was awful. I talked about it in chat a bit.

I tried again yesterday(Saturday) and didn't quite get to breakthrough, but it started off again with a very terrifying overtone... no idea where it was coming from, but about half way through it finally went away and came back to the usual DMT happy/airy feel.

I had mentioned before that I've never had a 'bad' trip on anything and I've done high doses of LSD in silent darkness... difficult at times, but not bad. I really got spanked on this one. Not sure what the lesson was just yet, but it definitely taught me a better respect for DMT.

Tried 2 other times yesterday and never quite got through, but the other 2 were still good. I think I'm going to give it a few days or so and work on some intent before I go back in. I'm currently on a juice fast so going to detox and meditate a bit before heading back to hyperspace.


Thanks for all the comments guys!

Sounds like you've got the right idea. As far as rough trips go they can sometimes perpetuate due to you not letting go of the fear of a repeat experience. Kind of like a miniature version of ptsd. It can be traumatic and if the thought of that experience is still even slightly in your head you can bring it back. Just let go and hopefully it won't.

Forcing a smile or doing something to usher in positive feelings can almost always change a negative space into a positive one. For me it's often the uncomfortable feeling I have most to overcome if it becomes negative.

LaoTzu..
During your break throughs with acacia spice.. I would like to ask how much spice you used?
And on your come up did you feel a little uncomfortable.. and for how long?.. before breaking through?
Or did you quickly go straight into the break through hardly aware of your pgysical body at all>???

I ask this because ive read that if one uses a large enough dose of smoked DMT ..the transition into the break through is quicker with very little awareness on ones own physical body..

Thegreenarrow...I didnt breakthrough because [this time]..the dose was too small of acacia but I came close..
Recently.. i just sucessfully vaporized my crystal acacia sanwiched in a bed of cappi leaf...
With an electronic weed vaporizer with whip.. set on [380 degrees] ..
I had to wait a few minutes for it to warm up but by 5 or 6 minutes the DMT explodes into a thick vapor that was smooth and STRONG!
I think the working range for DMT is 365 to 380 F.. or higher its similar to the temp pot vaporizes..at
I was so happy it worked and the cappi leaf didnt have any evedence of any burning at all!
Only the crystal acacia vaporized soo cleanly and i got twice the bang for my buck as it seemed a cleaner and stronger experiance from less spice..
The next time i vaporize i intend to break through
veiw my spice below..

The doses were 25mg/40mg/28mg - all done in the Herbal Aire vape. All 3 were the same, so it seemed to me that perhaps the larger(40mg) dose didn't get completely vaporized or something.

In any case, it was not really uncomfortable other than trying to take in that last hit as DMT is grabbing ahold of you and the whole room has that gripping vibration. At that point, I usually would just stop because I didn't know how much more ridiculous it would get, but that's really the worst part. I took in the last breath, held it, laid back, and closed my eyes. At that point all the uncomfortable vibration slowly fizzles away and the visuals come together to form sort of a tunnel or hallway, occasionally turning in on itself the way DMT does.

It seemed to take hold really quickly. Like I said, I didn't even realize I had broken through the first time until I came back. Once I knew what to look for, I realized it was happening again.