Hey all My first real post here on the Nexus hopefully I'll be learning a lot here! Ok so I asked this question on bluelight.ru and didn't get much response in the psychedelic section so I would like to ask here the following questions are below:

I am finally about to try ayahuasca, I have just become more comfortable with it over the years, I only ingest Mushrooms once in a while now however I have around 100 psychedelic experiences under my belt, LSD, Smoked DMT, Yopo etc etc….. I am a very experienced tripper, I have done 500-1000 hours of researching history, synth, safety profiles, TRs etc, chemical structures , receptors etc.... I always have Xanax and Klonopin on hand in case a trip gets out of control, and practice safe trips with friends and sitters.

I used to feel like ayahuasca had this voodoo vibe to me know I look at it as just two simple plants with alkaloids in them given to us humans as a gift, and a blessing to modern day chemistry! I am excited and ready to try it

Main question, I have Diplopterys cabrerana and Cappi vine, Mckenna Ceilo yellow and some red vine.
I plan to grind 40 grams of the yellow up and 10 grams of the Psychotria viridis and make a tea, I will brew them separate and ingest separate.

I keep reading people say first timers should use Psychotria viridis and advanced users use Diplopterys cabrerana

What is the big difference here? Is it the 5-MeO-DMT which seems relatively low in alkaloid % or does Psychotria viridian have a lower alkaloid content of DMT looks like Dip Cab is .17-1.75%DMT and viridis is only up to .66%DMT content.

As a very experienced users do I have anything to worry about going with the Diplopterys cabrerana for the first time? Maybe just do 7-8g?
Or do you recommend I go through the trouble of ordering some Viridis?

Also do have any of you found success with Diplopterys cabrerana some others online say it doesn't work for them but they also say it could have been bad…?

Thank You to anyone who read this whole thing and has time to chime in!

Hi earthbounded,

I highly recommmend you prepare at least 100 grams of vine not 40, that way you can skip the dud experience everyone has there first time and save yourself some plant material.

for me ayahuasca didnt work until i upped the dose over 100 grams. besides, the cappi is not to be feared, it will not be too much, its too much admixutre you need to be cautious of.

No one knows for sure if the chaliponga really contains 5-meo, that was referenced in an anyalysis of the plant but with several different plants being called chaliponga this could not be said to be true across the board...

Chaliponga has been my favorite admixture with ayahuasca and i used around 15 grams each time, one time lead to an overwhelmingly powerful 12+ hour breaking of the head, but syrian rue was used instead of aya that time. 15 grams with aya is a pretty solid dose, so if you make 15 grams and drink no more than half to start, you should be safe.

Cheers, and best of luck and good vibes going in

Awesome buddy thanks for taking the time to reply that's what I like to hear, Im a pretty big guy also so I may up the dosage of the caapi as well but keeping it at ten for the Diplopterys

i agree with the caapi advice. personally i prefer chacruna as i find it to be more playfull and lighthearted not that viridis isn't serious too. both can be super-powerfull but i prefer chacruna's feel. reckon your right dose of chali will be amazing but for me personally, chacruna na na na

vit c really does work for bringing trips down too, as per your safe tripping info; beer and sugar too, according to amsterdam headshops, back in the day. that was their advice for shrooms but vit c definitely works for lsd too, talking from experience . my cousin had her stomach pumped on mushrooms; suffice to say it did nothing but freak her out even more. shocking that hospitals don't know how to deal with such things.