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spooner
#1 Posted : 9/2/2013 7:30:30 PM

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Ok so the current time is 1300, SWIM is now just getting to the point where they can attempt to explain what they just went through. Currently SWIM cannot speak at all.

At 1200 a bowl was loaded that contained 60mg of pure dimitri sandwiched between 120mg of changa, 1:1 ratio, with 70mg of harmala dusted on the mix. SWIM could get through a total of 3 hits holding them in for as long as they could. SWIM instantly closed their eyes and got under the covers where it was completely dark. Nice light and very cool light patterns were observed, and a loud buzzing that focused into a pleasant ohm hum, SWIM was at the veil.

When SWIM made the realization that they were there, they focused and said "breakthrough" very clearly out loud, little did SWIM realize this would be the last thing they would be able to say for a while.....when the word breakthrough was said, all color patterns went away and the darkness went away and everything was emersed in a bright white light, 3 very distinct pulses were sent throughout SWIMS body, this shocked SWIM and forced them to open their eyes, SWIM was in the same room but everything had a bright yellow tint to it and enhancing visuals were observed everywhere, SWIM started feeling very sick to their stomach and ended up running to the bathroom to throw up. SWIM only coughed for a bit and proceeded to explore the whole house.

When SWIM passed by a mirror they glanced at it and then felt as it their head was grabbed and forced to look deep into the mirror. SWIM met eyes with their reflection and then felt as if their was a deep connection and could not look away or move. The reflection started morphing but SWIMS eyes could not look away from the reflection's eyes. The eyes showed deep sadness and pain, it looked as if the reflection of SWIM was crying out for help.

As SWIM was looking into the reflection their cat started rubbing on SWIMS legs and brought them out of it, SWIM went outside to smoke a cigarette and was greeted by a beautiful world, the grass was greener, the trees were more defined, and it looked like the ground was moving like lava, SWIM could not speak and was still experiencing sadness.

After SWIM went back inside they explored the house thinking about everything looking at everything, thinking about needing to clean everything and how to fix everything, SWIM went back to the same mirror and looked back into the reflection and was actually able to see the things that SWIM needs to do to fix their life, overall this experience has taught SWIM they need to fix their life around them and fix themselves to achieve a happier existence and experience an actual beautiful breakthrough. The time is currently 1330 and SWIM still feels deeply that they cannot speak, while in the gaze with the reflection SWIM was told not to speak and to observe

SWIM does have a question though, is what SWIM experienced anything near a breakthrough? SWIM has dosed out with dimitri before but feels hes has not achieved a breakthrough yet, SWIM would really appreciate the thoughts of others on what happened to them, SWIM is very confused at the moment, and feels lost..
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#2 Posted : 9/2/2013 7:55:54 PM

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update: time is approaching 1400, SWIM has been spending time outside thinking, SWIM was able to start forming sentences and speaking again
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#3 Posted : 9/2/2013 8:11:48 PM

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Don't worry brotha! Take your time with the words, they will come in due time Thumbs up
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#4 Posted : 9/2/2013 8:16:07 PM

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I know this is the time for you to come back, and relax, and exhale, but...

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At 1200 a bowl was loaded that contained 60mg of pure dimitri sandwiched between 120mg of changa, 1:1 ratio, with 70mg of harmala dusted on the mix.


Are you aware of how absurdly large is a 120 mg dose of smoked DMT, with or without 70 mg harmalas?
 
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#5 Posted : 9/2/2013 8:30:52 PM

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SWIM undertood how big of a dose that was, SWIM usually chills at 60mg-100mg and only has light visuals and sense of euphoria, SWIM intended to go way out there
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#6 Posted : 9/2/2013 8:42:46 PM

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60-100mg is an absurd dose. You should look into refining your smoking technique. That size of dose should be well beyond what you would want. It's really easy to overlook the fact that your not actually vaping what you think you are.

I'm glad the experience was good for you but seems very reminiscent of a more 20-25mg range for me. No need to swim the water is shallow here.
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#7 Posted : 9/2/2013 8:46:25 PM

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the way of dosing or how much was dosed was never a question guys, SWIM is just trying to get insight on the experience thats all
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#8 Posted : 9/2/2013 8:52:24 PM

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spooner wrote:
the way of dosing or how much was dosed was never a question guys, SWIM is just trying to get insight on the experience thats all


Theres a reason that these kinds of responses follow such a thread. If you had gone through an actual sizeable dose you would understand the need for this. I didnt use to bother as much before. I would throw caution out there but leave it at that.

If you do some research you will find that something isnt quite right if your having to use 120mg DMT changa with an addition of 60mg DMT. I assure you if you had a full 60mg experience alone, you wouldnt be doing it again. And if it happens on accident its very rough.

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SWIM instantly closed their eyes and got under the covers where it was completely dark. Nice light and very cool light patterns were observed, and a loud buzzing that focused into a pleasant ohm hum, SWIM was at the veil.

When SWIM made the realization that they were there, they focused and said "breakthrough" very clearly out loud, little did SWIM realize this would be the last thing they would be able to say for a while.....when the word breakthrough was said, all color patterns went away and the darkness went away and everything was emersed in a bright white light, 3 very distinct pulses were sent throughout SWIMS body, this shocked SWIM and forced them to open their eyes, SWIM was in the same room but everything had a bright yellow tint to it and enhancing visuals were observed everywhere, SWIM started feeling very sick to their stomach and ended up running to the bathroom to throw up. SWIM only coughed for a bit and proceeded to explore the whole house.


This is nowhere near what you would have experienced if you had actually taken that much DMT. what device are you using to smoke it and why not take just ONE hit? Multiple hits IME do not allow you to go as far as one single hit held for as long as possible.
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#9 Posted : 9/2/2013 9:03:05 PM

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just sandwiched in a regular hand pipe, SWIM has used a machine before and had little to no affects aswhell
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#10 Posted : 9/2/2013 9:03:35 PM

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I agree with the people saying that the doses you are having to take the effects you are saying is not right.

Maybe need to rethink your methods like the others have said. Perhaps it could be medicine you are taking also; I have heard of that being the case with some people.

Either way, I am glad you made it back in time.

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#11 Posted : 9/2/2013 9:05:30 PM

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SWIM is on no medication, does not even take alieve or tylenol, the only substance regularly introduced to the system is THC
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#12 Posted : 9/2/2013 9:08:51 PM

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spooner wrote:
just sandwiched in a regular hand pipe, SWIM has used a machine before and had little to no affects aswhell


Typo, this is like a 15-20mg non breakthrough dose for me. Although I cant say for sure if yours was a breakthrough. Thats for you to determine.

I would take that changa you have, and place a smaller amount (much smaller amount) into a bong and try to take a single hit held in for eternity. I want to say I guarantee a much different strength than you realize but... i've been wrong before. I am skeptical that it would take that much to get as far as you got. Also you didnt specify whether you smoked the entire thing in those 3 hits, but now knowing you used a hand pipe I know that you definitely DID NOT smoke 120mg of changa and 60mg of dmt on top of that in 3 hits with a hand pipe.

Like I said, i have had non breakthrough doses in the 15mg range, that were life changing. They really are something and I am glad you had a good one. It really does change your perspective on things dont it Thumbs up The ability to look at your life from a different subjective view is an important one in this journey we are all on.

Just to be clear IME it IS important to be mindful of the whole process, vaping, amounts, time held, set and setting ect. I just find it important to help people that might end up getting punched in the face with a real 60mg dose on accident.

Sorry to unload all this on you so soon after your experience... but caution is important from what I have learned.
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#13 Posted : 9/2/2013 9:14:40 PM

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oh yea the bowl was not all the way gone there's still maybe 1/3 of it left, SWIM did dose a full 60 mg changa in a hand pipe the previous day and smoked it all up, but no noticeable affects were achieved
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#14 Posted : 9/2/2013 9:18:17 PM

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spooner wrote:
oh yea the bowl was not all the way gone there's still maybe 1/3 of it left, SWIM did dose a full 60 mg changa in a hand pipe the previous day and smoked it all up, but no noticeable affects were achieved


Its most likely that you lost a lot of it into the pipe itself. DMT runs from heat, and its very tricky to catch it and keep it in place. Especially with a hand pipe.

Have you considered other methods? I would atleast add a TON of screens to your pipe. No idea how many, but a bong would have a much greater effect, coupled with one single deep hit. The longer you hold it in the greater the effect. If taking multiple hits your not going to get as far as you would with all that in one.
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#15 Posted : 9/7/2013 3:41:13 AM

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or the DMT is just not that strong??
 
 
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