sooooo....i still haven't tried any spice. I still have the same 4 roughly 35mg doses that ive had for going on two months now. There is around 5-10mg floating around the bag loose and i was wondering the members here thoughts on perhaps burning that to maybe test the waters before i dive completely in ? Or should i just close my eyes and belly flop that mother...?

I don't know that you'd get much, if anything, from 5-10mg. Erowid lists the threshold dose at about 5mg, so you could get some very light effects. However, there really isn't much comparison between a threshold dose and a full dose of spice. I'd personally recommend saving that extra 5-10mg in case you want to add it to a dose or two down the road, and just dive in with the 35mg whenever you feel ready. Even after having been doing DMT for close to two years, there's times when I'll sit on multiple doses for months, waiting until I feel 'right' to do it.

Sleepy, you sound ready (having sat on some 35mg doses for a while, thinking about them evey day) to belly flop my friend.

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If you have never smoked DMT before there is probably going to be a good bit of waste and you likely won't get an entire 35mg dose. There is a bit of a learning curve.

With that being said if you want to test the waters (and practice your smoking technique) I would probably split one of the 35mg doses in half and start with that, maybe add the other 5-10mg on top of that if you want.

Take 2x 35mg doses and turn them to 1x20 and 2x25

Then have the two 35mg doses left after there (with whatever you say you have loose). 5 journeys total and you can add the loose stuff in and even make up a 40 for your last (if that floats your boat).

If you are looking to maximise you experience, while ensuring minimal waste (5-10mg is not going to help with what you seem to want), then this is what I would do given the minimal rationing of spice you say you have and as such is my own humble recommendation.

My other recommendation would be to secure yourself a position (if safely possible) in which you don't need to worry about rationing

Id say just jump in man I was scared out of my mind last night when i took my 1st toke, I had to watch "dmt the spirit molcule" just to amp my self up to load the pipe, after i did i sat there for probable 30m contemplating the idea of taking it and said to my self "its now or never" considering i paid for it and its right in front of me if i didnt take it then i probable would of never but boy im i glad i did. I took 2 hits last night and i got to say the bigger one felt better then the smaller one, my 1st samller hit did leave me wanting a real experience.

I think you should listen to ZenSpice 5-10mg is too low 20mg is a good starting point, this could be a breakthrough dose if your technique is spot on but that is unlikely for your 1st time. So I would say go for the 20mg just to test the waters, but don't be surprised if an elf pops in so say hello

Anyways best wishes to you.

i plan on trying an extraction when i feel im in a place thats comfortable, but that place is not where i am lol. rationing really isnt the issue, i guess im still kinda nervous. i had i really bad bout with the stimulants a few years ago, and i havent really "gone" anywhere since then (save for a few salvia trips).

A most sensible approach indeed, best of luck getting past the nerves.

Even once ya do they still creep back in many a time, anyone who says otherwise isn't being totally forthcoming heheh..

My first breakthrough was my fifth attempt = WOAH

Don't tell me that! That would be such a bummer, wait all this time and not even breakthrough. I wouldn't even say its nerves thats really stopping me. I think its the same reason I dont feel comfortable doing an extraction, im in the wrong place for such a thing.

If your not in the right place to dose I would caution to heed set and setting.

My personal recommendation would be to take 15-20 max for your first one. If you load a higher dose without having your technique down you could waste that entire thing in no time.

If you dose 10mg and you get very light cevs then you know you vaped it correctly and could proceed for a larger dose. 35mg vaped properly is a very intense experience. Can't say I recommend that as a first. Also have to take into consideration possible sensitivity or natural tolerance. Doses don't always effect people the same.