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higgins
#1 Posted : 8/20/2013 9:22:47 PM

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Hi one and all.
(I apologies for the cold blooded murder of the English language you are about to witness I am a terrible descriptive writer)

This will be an account of SWIM's 1st 2nd and 3rd trips into The Realm ( the 3rd is the one that shook him) .
SWIM will try to impart as much memory as he has but he struggles to remember his trips.

SWIM had his first spice hit a year ago, after hearing about it from his friend.
SWIM has tried many substances in his youth but nothing prepared him for the beauty and wonder of The Realm.
SWIM's first dose was eyeballed by his friend and smoked through a glass oil burner.On the first toke SWIMS hearing was slowly overpowered by a ear splitting tone which grew louder and louder with the second toke. SWIM remembers taking the third toke and BANG! The next thing he knew he was in front of a giant kaleidoscope of brilliant reds and yellows . The closer SWIM looked the more detail SWIM noticed of the pattern, it was leading him through layers and layers of itself. He than realized he couldn't feel himself breath or his heartbeat. SWIM had NO sensory input. So he began to open his eyes and cling to reality. As he did this he would feel himself take a massive breath and close his eyes again, losing all senses as he did.It was like being in rough sea struggling to get above water to breath. SWIM then had the moment Terrance describes "ive done it this time, i must be dead". As soon as he thought this a "voice" (accept it wasn't a voice more a message implanted in his mind) said "if you are dead then death is clearly not the end". He was then overcome by joy and peace for the final 3 minutes starring at the pattern until the effects began to wear away.

SWIM's second trip was with spice he had extracted for himself and a different friend to the first time.SWIM got 0.5g of beige/off white spice from the first extraction and could smell the good stuff straight away. He arranged to have an evening without his housemates in, just the two of them to blast off.

For this session SWIM used a Shotty Bottle. This is a home made water bong without a head or gauze. Essentially a 500ml coke bottle with a bong tube with the head removed melted into the side. This allows you to load a small amount of tobacco and cannabis into the tube, then the spice and cover with a thick layer of cannabis. You can then cream and rip ALL the smoke in one hit!

SWIM loaded 40 mg into the bottle. Ripped it and held it in. Streight away he felt what he calls "the crush" come on. He says its not painful more like gravity has been turned to 11 and is pulling your head through your feet. As he fell into himself he handed the bottle over and passed out for 5 minutes (smiling like a baby as he did) SWIM has no memory of this part but being happy.At 5 minutes he snapped up right and began making a series of shapes with his hands and arms repeatedly. During this time SWIM remembers a dark, deep purple with pinks (almost like what you see in a scooby doo episode) which right at the end turned to a black tunnel. There was a rushing air sound and SWIM felt himself rushing back into his body ,as a voice said "were taking you back now".
SWIM came back to his senses very confused this time and within 10 minutes he couldn't remember very much other than how much "darker" it had been

SWIM's friend had smoked allot of SWIMS dmt but had had 0 effect. And SWIM began to get a bit paranoid that he had imagined it all and that it was a placebo.
Stupidly he loaded another 40mg hit. Creamed , ripped and held in until he lost feeling in his body. He then felt the crush pulling him inside himself.Swim has very little memory again of the first half of his trip. He told his friend immediately upon sobering up that he had been shown "time travel" and there had been several "beings" (he never saw them but he felt they where vying for his attention showing him different points in time) The things the were showing me where forming out of the same deep purple pink patterns as the first time. But with a almost music that would alter the reality and time, twisting and bending it as the noise twisted and bent.SWIM described it as like a tone from an old old old pc being oscillated on a synthesizer
During this time SWIM was smiling laughing and looking amazed at what he saw,he was also sat in a reclining chair.
SWIM then slumped back lifeless. His eyes then shot open. He slowly sat bolt upright locking the chair leg rest into place. And laughed very slowly and in a voice MUCH deeper than his own(think evil villain in a old horror film) He then scanned the room slowly until he saw his friend opposite. SWIMS friend said he look angrier than he had ever known him and seemed to be looking through him. SWIM then began making noise like " GA GA GA TI TI TI TI KA KA KA KA" his friend said it looked like he was stuttering trying to say something.
During this time SWIM felt as though he was not himself. He felt like HE was another being looking through his body's eyes.As he looked about the room it was lit in the same green light that he sees when he opens his eyes on dmt. But as he looked at technology or lifeforms (his friend) they would be segmented by lines vertically and horizontally. This being that was in his body was very angry with him. asking him why he had bought him back here, and who was his friend . It got angrier saying how it would take his friend and destroy him. It then told SWIM to tell his friend what it was saying but SWIM resisted as much as possible(he thinks that's what the stuttering was)
As SWIM fought not to talk he was shaking slightly and the being became angrier and angrier until finally he heard the rushing air noise as was dumped back into reality.
SWIM immediately told his friend who told him what his body actions had been making SWIM very uncomfortable that he had BEEN someone else in his own body. He said it was the closest thing he could imagine to possessed or schizophrenic.
He will definitely not be doing 2 heavy dosses in such short succession but he wanted to check his products constancy.

SWIM is looking for anyone who may have experienced something similar to possession or bringing entities into this world.
Also do any of you more experienced phyconauts have any idea why SWIMS two second experiences were so much darker in nature. It hasn't put him off he just wonders what he can change for next time. Maybe the extra THC in his system tainted it( he had a big smoke during the day to calm nerves)
I apologize again for my murdering of the English language and if there are any questions you have or points that are unclear please feel free to ask.
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ZenSpice
#2 Posted : 8/20/2013 10:11:20 PM

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A very interesting read..

I facilitated a session for someone recently and it was very much like some kind of possession or even exorcism was taking place. I felt this and the one permitted onlooker also said the same before I even mentioned (after all had settled, of course).

While the participant is not wanting to divulge too much at this time regarding exactly what they saw and what it seemingly did, I can offer the following..

The level of vocalizations made during the session (which was a first for me to witness) were definitely indicative of the participant feeling something was inside their solar plexus. They adamantly insisted they wanted it out of them, repeatedly demanding for what it was doing to them to stop while also repeatedly demanding to be taken out of the place it had reportedly taken them too.

OEV and CEV did not seem to matter, while myself and onlooker could be seen in OEV state (in admittedly highly altered looking forms) nothing else in the room existed. This was also the first time I have seen someone trying to enter a CEV state in order to lessen the intensity (Usually works the other way round, from both my own experience and some others past comments)

Anyways, I was drained to my core after the session and am honestly undecided as to what it all entailed exactly. It spun my head out and made me respect the molecule more than ever (which is already very highly).

This stuff is POWERFUL beyond words to say the least.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/21/2013 5:13:53 AM

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Two very interesting reports.

Its this sort of thing that really puts me off breaking through!

Does anyone know if this sort of thing happens often?
If this is happening to a person, is there a way mid trip to stop it?
What was the mindset of the participants?
Was any form of fasting done?
Was music being played?

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I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention in fact everything I write here is a lie !

I hope in some way, my posts and replies may of helped you, I hope you like what I have said here if not feel free to send me a none flame PM
 
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#4 Posted : 8/21/2013 8:01:24 AM

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SWIM was facilitating his friends first session. So their was low light they had listened to some Shpongle for a few hours previous and just relaxed smoking some cannabis.
SWIMS friends experience when he did finally blast off was very enjoyable and he was amazed by the things he saw. And that was after being told a trans-dimensional being wanted to Bust him up hehe.
SWIM's taken the message from these last two trips that the spice was flexing its muscles. It was showing him what it could do (whilst being shown time travel this is what the beings were saying "see what i can do, look at this, what about that"Pleased and that he should respect it even more than he did already, else it will pimp slap him all the way back to reality.
SWIM is glad someone else has witnessed this as he was struggling to reconcile the experience as it was so alien.
@ZenSpice
SWIM was glad you have had similar experience it has reassured him. As far as what happened to SWIM he has given up thinking about the mechanics of what happened( his human brain will never comprehend) and i see it as a warning to treat it with the highest care and respect.
SWIM too had a high regard for this stuff, but now SWIM will treat it like a mental Atomic bomb.
SWIM will never give it to any one who has not prepared themselves for several months. I feel i can now tell who's intention is true and who just thinks they're going to get high.

@infinitylove
I do not want to put off people from breakthrough . My advice would be to not expect anything, as i read more about this molecule it appears as though Trip A could be as different as night and day compared to Trip B and C.
I have not met any one else who has had my experience(Other than ZenSpice), but i do not know many phyconauts in person.
If it happens go with it. The more i fought it the more uncomfortable i felt, eyes open or closed didn't make a difference. I have never been able to change my trip without outside noise/movement(could be my weak mind haha)

peace
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#5 Posted : 8/21/2013 11:36:49 AM

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Couldn't agree more with basically all you say..

From now on I am not going to just accept someone realizes this might change their live irrevocably forever, I will have to be fully convinced that they know and fully accept what this means...

Also, If there intent seems skewed or half-hearted I will defer from helping them to blast off.

I always took this quite seriously myself (sounds like you have also) but after this weekend, well to quote an oft used movie passage in my region, "Shit just got REAL...." (Excuse momentary cursing)..

I am also glad to read of similar experiences as it was a first for me (and totally disarming). While I have been able to abort sessions mid journey (couple of times, I hate doing it) I do not know if it is possible for someone in a state such as this, even if they wanted, to fully remove themselves in an instant..

It was like something had come along pulled every last bit of dark crap from their depths and dragged it up to the surface. just before being able to remove it however the participant freaked and demanded to be left alone.. I think this was a partial abortion of the journey (they reported the entity left them and kind of dropped them in a void) but this also left them alone (well, me trying to help) in a dealing with the unstuck energies and having to make a huge push to finally removal of it all by themselves (MAD convulsions and other shenanigans going down at this time).

Respect due Thumbs up
 
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#6 Posted : 8/21/2013 10:02:39 PM

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As SWIMS experiance was this weekend also it seems as though an entity cold of woke up on the wrong side of his multidimensional bed hehe
Tottaly agree with what you say though ,this is the nearest to any form of major religious or spiritual event SWIM has ever encountered.
SWIM has a fresh batch of spice that looks allot cleaner (the last stuff was had orange tinge to it)so will report back whenst he has integrated his last session properly.
Thanks for the replys ZenSpice SWIMs week has been normalized Smile
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#7 Posted : 8/21/2013 11:47:28 PM

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Most welcome and reciprocated.. FTR Mine was re-x spice that was nice and translucent with tinges of white (under a jewelers loupe, looked like light opaque white flakes to the eye).

I reckon sometimes you just have to face what comes and with resolve be determined to come out better on the other side. Wink
 
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#8 Posted : 8/22/2013 3:10:57 AM
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My one and only experience on DMT ended with a demonic force appearing in the fence out the back of my house at night. I had come home from work one night and had been given some DMT so packed a cone full and smoked it. I wasn't expecting much at all to happen. I found it easy to smoke held it and exhaled. Immediately pin picks of light appeared and the room shifted into another reality. Everything was still there only in another dimension of colours shapes etc. but what happened next was the room became a giant dome of silver, white and gold with "the light above it" it was beyond comprehension. The Dome stretched as far as the eye can see. I was rising slowly to the light and knew I was dying. There was a feeling of profound sadness and understanding between myself and the light. It was like we were the same thing. As I was almost in the light I was convinced the universe would be unmade should I enter. I decided no and shook my head violently back and forward and came back to reality only it was muddy. My girlfriend walked through the room to go to the toilet outside. I remember thinking it is u and I at the end of time alone before all is gone. I don't know how much time elapsed but managed to run to the bedroom to find her see her one last time. She wasn't there so ran outside to find her there. I held her face and she sort of started to vaporize leaving a looped recording of her last words. I moved away from her telling her to go to bed thinking if I was not close to her she would be ok. She left. It was then I encountered a demonic force in the fence. I could feel it clamp a pressure on my very being and tried to fight it with my mind but it was too strong. I was able to stall it long enough for the drug to lessen and give me more power over it. From there I was coming back and it faded.
Haven't been the same since. Feel empty and have the feeling that death is near. There's a sadness to me I can't shake like something is off. My girlfriend notices it too. Anyone had something like this?
 
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#9 Posted : 8/22/2013 9:17:53 AM

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Did you check this :

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...trips_.2F_Dark_entities

Its IMO one of the best parts of the wiki Smile
 
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#10 Posted : 8/28/2013 2:41:49 AM

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Man, I know what you're talking about. Mine was a bit odd... I was with two friends and we blasted off together outside during a full moon on a hill top, which was awesome! Smile

But yeah at one point I was sitting Indian style then felt this wave of energy pushing my backwards until I fell back on the grass. I was plastered to the ground then I felt as if I had extra limbs... massive insect limbs. Like ten extra. They were hard to move but I could do it. I eventually stood up and looked and my friends and they said, "Dude! You look so weird!" I was standing there and I felt massive, powerful, and full of darkness, but it felt good. I was staring at the full moon and moving my new limbs around. They more they freaked out about what I looked like the darker and more powerful I felt.

Very weird. Definitely felt like something was inside of me as I was moving these freaking new appendages.
Oh my god. I broke it. I broke reality.
 
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#11 Posted : 8/28/2013 4:48:19 AM

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Quote:

It was like something had come along pulled every last bit of dark crap from their depths and dragged it up to the surface. just before being able to remove it however the participant freaked and demanded to be left alone.. I think this was a partial abortion of the journey (they reported the entity left them and kind of dropped them in a void) but this also left them alone (well, me trying to help) in a dealing with the unstuck energies and having to make a huge push to finally removal of it all by themselves (MAD convulsions and other shenanigans going down at this ti[]me).

Respect due Thumbs up


This reminds me of the one and only-irrevocably life-changing-breakthrough, when upon being deposited in a newly gifted body, began vomiting a gigantic black snake, that began to dissolve into thick black fractal smoke.
I freaked out thinking, oh my God, this evil bring released into the world! Oh no! It can't!

Then I realized, it's MY evil, it can't live without me, hence the dissolution into the air. That was it's dying lie, and I actually swallowed the tail before I realized it. I'm still trying to get that last bit up...

It's deep stuff, man, be ready for yes, change.
Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
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higgins
#12 Posted : 9/2/2013 6:53:48 PM

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Hey guys
cheers for the responses its good(i think) that i'am not the only one to experience this.
This definitely needs more investigating.
Swim has come to the conclusion that the darkness he felt inside him, was Swim being shown the anger/evil we as humans we all posses.It was showing him what would happen if he let anger and hatred take him over (ever since he was younger, swim would smother his anger and it would explode all at once in moments of rage)
Since the experience swim has found himself able to control his anger much more and it flows out of his body without raging . Swim feels less wound up and allot more at peace Smile
@Null24 - DMT truly changed Swims life.
 
 
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