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Amy S
#1 Posted : 8/13/2013 9:39:23 AM

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Now that Silent Circle is also gone, does anyone know of any encrypted mailing systems? The Internet is becoming such a useless place.
 

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#2 Posted : 8/13/2013 9:52:48 AM

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Amy S
#3 Posted : 8/13/2013 10:59:16 AM

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Thanks! I'm looking more specifically for one that will also encrypt mail content.
 
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#4 Posted : 8/13/2013 11:22:31 AM

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Countermail is really nice but its not free anymoe.
 
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#5 Posted : 8/13/2013 11:30:39 AM

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Amy S wrote:
Thanks! I'm looking more specifically for one that will also encrypt mail content.


I'll be following the Mailpile project closely, they're still looking for (crowd-) funding so they haven't anything operational yet but the project looks promising:

http://www.mailpile.is/
 
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#6 Posted : 8/13/2013 3:23:38 PM



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Well there was lavabit. I don't know much about it, but it seems that it was forced to shut down by the gov because it was discovered snowden was using it...From its creator:

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on–the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC



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Ufostrahlen
#7 Posted : 8/13/2013 3:46:27 PM

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http://www.mailvelope.com/
http://www.gnupg.org/
http://www.enigmail.net/home/index.php
http://www.thialfihar.org/projects/apg/

But beware of the NSA backdoors and stay way from commercial closed-source operating systems - otherwise encryption doesn't make much sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsakey
https://prism-break.org/

Quote:

Phil Zimmermann: The surveillance landscape is far worse than it has ever been and I feel like everything we do is now observable. All of our transactions and communications are all fused together into total information awareness apparatus. I don’t think any of this can be fixed merely by the application of cryptography. It is going to require some push back in the policy space. We are going to have to have Congress react to this and we need to get the population to react, perhaps through the economic consequences we face of losing a lot of business for American internet companies. Maybe American internet companies can push back because of economic harm that comes with the rest of world turning its back on us.


http://gigaom.com/2013/0...he-surveillance-society/
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#8 Posted : 8/13/2013 5:57:45 PM


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Yup.
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#9 Posted : 8/14/2013 8:59:27 AM

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Don't rely on others to do your encryption for you.

PGP + any email provider.
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#10 Posted : 8/14/2013 9:31:16 AM

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I don't actually know how reliable this is, as it was merely suggested to me by a friend who is in the know..

But riseup.net comes highly recommended.

If anyone could enlighten me further as to the validity of this service I'm all ears.

Peace
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Amy S
#11 Posted : 8/14/2013 11:49:27 AM

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Thanks all.


Ufostrahlen wrote:
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We are going to have to have Congress react to this and we need to get the population to react

Good luck on both accounts! With populations Blairised and your Congress monopolised, really, you'll need it, and much more...
 
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#12 Posted : 8/14/2013 12:38:22 PM

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Amy S wrote:
Good luck on both accounts! With populations Blairised and your Congress monopolised, really, you'll need it, and much more...

What do you mean with you? Better say: we - because this going on worldwide.
You can safely assume that:

the Government Communications Headquarters of the United Kingdom,
the National Security Agency of the United States,
the Communications Security Establishment of Canada,
the Defence Signals Directorate of Australia, and
the Government Communications Security Bureau of New Zealand.
the National SIGINT Organisation (NSO) of The Netherlands

all parties of the ECHELON system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
are deeply involved in spying on citizens worldwide. The NSA is just the spearhead of this activity. XKeyscore is installed at intelligence bases all over the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKEYSCORE

Oh and here is the article why you shouldn't trust M$ your data no more:

http://www.theguardian.c...-collaboration-user-data

Delete that spyware from your computer, sell your licence to the sheeple and get Linux or BSD on your system. In case your privacy matters to you.

And here's a good read:

How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

www.nytimes.com/2013/08/...ura-poitras-snowden.html







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Amy S
#13 Posted : 8/14/2013 5:07:23 PM

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By you I meant specifically the United States, the US Congress. Even though, say, Denmark or Poland is just as broke and corrupt. Or my own country. But they don't all have a Congress.
 
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#14 Posted : 8/14/2013 7:29:55 PM

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Amy S wrote:
By you I meant specifically the United States, the US Congress. Even though, say, Denmark or Poland is just as broke and corrupt. Or my own country. But they don't all have a Congress.


Yeah we're all living in Amerika, Amerika ist wunderbar.
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#15 Posted : 8/15/2013 1:26:09 PM

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brainforest wrote:
I don't actually know how reliable this is, as it was merely suggested to me by a friend who is in the know..

But riseup.net comes highly recommended.

If anyone could enlighten me further as to the validity of this service I'm all ears.

Peace


Was also suggested to me by folks in the know, thats all I know about it and was used by a good few internet friends of mine. A lot of people just use as someone mentioned pgp keys, seemes to be the most common ive founf never bothered myself as not been that active on the net recently and never got round to setting it up, I was using privnote in the past though hear its not that secure. The note destroys itself soon as its read by whoever you send it too, but others say its kinda sketchy like most popular "secure" mail providers.
 
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#16 Posted : 8/15/2013 11:20:56 PM

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Infinite 1.................


Understood


Peace.


I'm happy to discuss this further if anyone wants.
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#17 Posted : 8/15/2013 11:21:44 PM

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#18 Posted : 8/16/2013 4:06:50 PM

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My favorite is www.hushmail.com

You need to login once every 30 days to keep your free account active, or it'll deactive automatically.

Good place to go for a temporary, encrypted exchange.
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#19 Posted : 8/16/2013 4:21:56 PM

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I used have hushmail untill i read somewhere that they actually gave out someones account info when pressured from LEO.

 
Ufostrahlen
#20 Posted : 8/16/2013 5:20:23 PM

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SHroomtroll wrote:
I used have hushmail untill i read somewhere that they actually gave out someones account info when pressured from LEO.


You've read it probably here:

http://www.wired.com/thr...2007/11/encrypted-e-mai/

or here:

https://en.wikipedia.org...romises_to_email_privacy
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