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pau
#1 Posted : 8/7/2013 6:49:22 PM

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#2 Posted : 8/7/2013 9:36:31 PM

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Great story. Hope more people become aware of this. It looks like concentrated CBD is finally available and legal to purchase in the US (without a medical cannabis card) and many other countries. It will be interesting to hear the many different ways in which this amazing medicine helps people.

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#3 Posted : 8/7/2013 10:04:08 PM

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My brother has cerebral palsy and autism, a symptom is severe epilepsy. After going through everything that allopathic medicine had to offer and subjecting him to unknown horrors related with these medicines, I suggested medical cannabis. Lo and behold first time we gave him rick simpson oil everything changed. His typically spastic muscle are relaxed, for the first time in his life he is smiling, and smiling a lot. His seizures are done, and when the neurologist saw him after refusing to sign off on his card he said he couldn't believe the changes, but said he still wont support it because of its illegal federal status.

Also I have a friend who has cerebral palsy that isn't severe, he eats magic mushrooms once a month and is able to live life without stuttering or muscle spasticity normally related to this condition. I think this is nothing short of miraculous.

I hope that one day we will have an honest medical community that truly cares about the wellbeing of its patients, and is willing to do the research necessary to come to real conclusions on substances. The compounds in these drugs are illegal because they actually work, along with many other herbal/natural treatments. The efficacy of these treatments keeps them illegal because they cure people thus cutting off profit supplies to large pharma.

Not to mention the community that surrounds these natural treatments is filled with compassionate people who seem to genuinely care about the wellbeing of the patients, opposed to many of the doctors who see you as your disease and nothing more in the allopathic world of medicine.

thats my rant ^^
 
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#4 Posted : 8/7/2013 11:35:57 PM

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adam wrote:
when the neurologist saw him after refusing to sign off on his card he said he couldn't believe the changes, but said he still wont support it because of its illegal federal status.

still no facepalm emoticon so.. Stop
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#5 Posted : 8/8/2013 2:01:08 AM

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adam wrote:

I hope that one day we will have an honest medical community that truly cares about the wellbeing of its patients, and is willing to do the research necessary to come to real conclusions on substances. The compounds in these drugs are illegal because they actually work, along with many other herbal/natural treatments. The efficacy of these treatments keeps them illegal because they cure people thus cutting off profit supplies to large pharma.

Not to mention the community that surrounds these natural treatments is filled with compassionate people who seem to genuinely care about the wellbeing of the patients, opposed to many of the doctors who see you as your disease and nothing more in the allopathic world of medicine.

thats my rant ^^

Not likely I'm afraid Sad
At least, not as long as the medical system is based on making a juicy profit.

I was recently diagnosed with what appears to be a mild form of temporal lobe epilepsy (they still have some tests to run), and cannabis seems to exacerbate them for me.
Oliver Saks, in his excellent new book, Hallucinations writes of a female patient who's epileptic fits became more frequent with cannabis use, so it just goes to show that brains are complicated.

I'm surprised to hear that psilocybin helps with cerebral palsy. That's something I'd like to look more into.

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#6 Posted : 8/8/2013 2:55:56 AM

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Certainly some drugs can be medicine for some and poison for others, which is why it is important to carefully screen patients. Recently my mom had a severe toxic reaction to some anti-anxiety medication, the doctor started her on a high dose without any lab work or careful screening, she almost died! Patients and doctors both need to be very careful with the substances they suggesting be used.

As for the psilocybin I was very surprised this works for him, the problem is who do you approach with this information considering the legal status of it. I suggested he try to get in contact with MAPS and maybe they could point him in the direction of someone sympathetic and curious enough to investigate further.
 
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#7 Posted : 8/8/2013 4:23:46 AM

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Nathanial.Dread, it might only be that Cannabis with THC makes it worse. There are lots of complex cannabinoids within Cannabis, many are not psychoactive, like CBD. It might be worth trying CBD with no THC present to see if it helps at all.
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#8 Posted : 8/8/2013 4:47:14 AM

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... and indeed, it was "no psychoactivity" cannabidiol (CBD) oil that helped the girl mentioned in today's CNN article. The fact that the family in this article is from Colorado ought to give some hope to epileptics from that state. Is there a Nexian from The Netherlands who could chime in on this?
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#9 Posted : 8/8/2013 8:13:17 AM

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"Oliver Saks, in his excellent new book, Hallucinations writes of a female patient who's epileptic fits became more frequent with cannabis use, so it just goes to show that brains are complicated."

That is kind of ambiguous though, because there is a very big different in terms of medicinal/psychoactive effects between THC and CBD. A high THC strain is going to be entirely different from a CBD dominant strain. As a medicine often CBD dominant is necessary, but most cannabis today is high THC and low CBD.
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