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#1 Posted : 8/2/2013 12:24:04 PM
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I have not done any psychedelics before other than cannabis, and I am very interested in them and really want to experience them, and I have for a very long time.
now I understand that DMT is not the best psychedelic for someone's first trip, but I have a good reason for wanting to do it. and that is I seem to get very sick from eating drugs, I have been to hospital multiple times from being very sick for days from alcohol. and also I ate a fairly large dose of edible cannabis once and I was fine, but another time I ate a small dose and was sick for 2 days, I had to go to hospital to get it to stop. so I do not know what is wrong with me but I assume that eating drugs is not a good idea for me, and that smoking might be a better idea, also because I smoke cannabis and that never makes me sick.

so I know a lot of people say to go straight deep into DMT, but I really don't want to. I would be happy just having a very mild experience and not breaking through. and maybe after a while increasing the dose.

so is this a decent idea? is it ok for someone to do a low dose od DMT for their fist trip?
and what dose in a vaporgenie would be a very low dose?
 

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#2 Posted : 8/2/2013 1:44:11 PM

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Good choice with starting low. I preach this all the time to those new to DMT. However beings that you have had some hospital trips are you sure DMT is a good idea? What exactly did you goto the hospital for? What was the diagnosis?

If you check out my vaping guide in my sig below it has all the info you need. I recommend for you to start with 10mg and perfect your smoking technique with that size dose before going up in dose. A 10mg dose should typically give you slight oev and/or cev's.
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#3 Posted : 8/2/2013 2:43:43 PM

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I would second that . What was the diagnosis ? Multiple hospital visits
Sound suspect to me and not good .

Just a reminder that dmt is not like any other so called drug .
It's extremely powerful stuff . Your post is very unspecific for
What your asking . Did you go to emergency room because you were
Too high ? Or because you got sick ?
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#4 Posted : 8/3/2013 2:41:00 AM
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thanks for the replies.
It has never been from the psychological effects of anything, or from the high. it has been that I have felt so sick for so long that I would be wanting to kill myself. again I don't know why this happens, but it seems to be related to putting drugs in my stomach, and smoking them seems to be fine. and I guess even if DMT did make me sick, it would be fully out of my system in like 5 minutes anyway, especially with a low dose.
 
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#5 Posted : 8/3/2013 3:20:50 AM

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What did the doctor do for you that made it better?

Im still curious about the being sick thing. When you were sick from alcohol how much did you drink? What did the doctor say or do? Same question with the edible.

If these kinds of things make you sick when eating them that doesnt automatically default to meaning DMT will be safe. Nor does it mean that if DMT made you sick it would only be for a short time.

Do other things make you sick?
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#6 Posted : 8/3/2013 4:51:28 AM
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anrchy wrote:
What did the doctor do for you that made it better?

Im still curious about the being sick thing. When you were sick from alcohol how much did you drink? What did the doctor say or do? Same question with the edible.

If these kinds of things make you sick when eating them that doesnt automatically default to meaning DMT will be safe. Nor does it mean that if DMT made you sick it would only be for a short time.

Do other things make you sick?


from the alcohol I drank a lot, enough to make someone very sick. but with most people they will be sick and have a bad hangover and that is it. I just keep getting more and more sick, and it doesn't stop until I get medication to make it stop. but I just don't drink alcohol anymore, it doesn't interest me all that much anyway.
and with the edible the first time I did them I had a firecracker with about 1.5 grams in it, and I was fine. and the next time I did a firecracker with around 0.25 grams in it and I was sick all night that night, then the next day I went to hospital and they gave me some medication and I got better and went home, after a few hours I started to feel sick again and it kept getting worse until I had to go back to hospital again and they eventually gave me the medication that has worked for the alcohol before which is stemetil, and that worked.
also I now have stemzine which is the same thing as stemetil, at home so if I ever get very sick I can hopefully fix it without going to hospital.

I used to get very car sick but not really anymore, but nothing else really makes me sick, but as these are realy the only 2 drugs I have put into my stomach and they had this result, I assumed that I better not pursue psychedelics by taking shrooms or ayahuasca or anything like that.
 
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Sorry but I think you are trying different methods to escape. Too much alcohol which kills the spirit. Now you want to do dmt. What exactly are you looking for?
 
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#8 Posted : 8/3/2013 6:12:28 AM
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cuscowahca wrote:
Sorry but I think you are trying different methods to escape. Too much alcohol which kills the spirit. Now you want to do dmt. What exactly are you looking for?


I honestly don't know where you got that from, have you ever read what I said?
i smoke weed because i like it, i ate 0.25 grams of weed when i got sick. and i have always been extremely interested in lucid dreaming, out of body experiences, meditation, psychedelics and other altered states.
 
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#9 Posted : 8/3/2013 2:35:38 PM

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cuscowahca wrote:
Sorry but I think you are trying different methods to escape. Too much alcohol which kills the spirit. Now you want to do dmt. What exactly are you looking for?


I don't see how you would have come to this conclusion either.

I did a quick search on stemetil, and I don't like what I have read about it. Either way I personally don't recommend you pursue drugs. I don't know why you have had the symptoms you did but there might be a serious underlying cause. Stemetil is often prescribed to chemotherapy patients, from what I've read, and used to be prescribed as an anti-psychotic.
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#10 Posted : 8/4/2013 2:20:57 AM
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I don't see how you would have come to this conclusion either.

I did a quick search on stemetil, and I don't like what I have read about it. Either way I personally don't recommend you pursue drugs. I don't know why you have had the symptoms you did but there might be a serious underlying cause. Stemetil is often prescribed to chemotherapy patients, from what I've read, and used to be prescribed as an anti-psychotic.


"Prochlorperazine (Compazine, Stemzine, Buccastem, Stemetil, Phenotil) is a dopamine (D2) receptor antagonist that belongs to the phenothiazine class of antipsychotic agents that are used for the antiemetic treatment of nausea and vertigo"

the work antipsychotic does not mean that it is for psychosis, as it says it is used for "treatment of nausea and vertigo"
 
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#11 Posted : 8/5/2013 3:09:08 AM
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If one is wanting to pursue DMT for the first time, i myself would recommend Changa (smokeable DMT with Harmalas). I like my Changa low on the DMT, high on the Harmalas. But i'd say the lightest Changa would probably be some DMT evaporated onto about 2 to 3 grams of Caapi leaves.
 
 
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