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How to "combat" malevolent entities in hyperspace? Options
 
cheiron
#101 Posted : 7/10/2013 8:39:27 PM

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Hehe, this topic seems be keep on stirring some heated discussions Smile
It is a fascinating topic and touches the core of one's worldview, as it seems.

Hyperspace Fool wrote:
As a veteran of literally thousands of journeys over 35 years or so... I think it funny when people who have a handful of experiences think they can school me about what is going on in Hyperspace. [...] it is just the feeling one gets when young people who were not even born when you began meeting entities try and influence your beliefs and question your experiences with them.


I'm 35 years old, so, indeed, you have an impressive trackrecord. You don't have to convince me, as I agree with you on "that trying to imagine that beings that dwarf you, and have minds that make yours look like a toy cup that leaks... are mere "aspects" of you, is a good thing, though." . I have had encounters with entities so vast, that it convinced me of their true 'otherness'.

My interest is not, and yours neither as you stated, to convince someone from an ontology to be truth. People have to (and will) make up there own ontologies, based on their own experiences. And though it seems wise to accept the guidance of more experienced travellers (and even millenia of experience with these realms) people want and need to explore reality by themselves. So, no one can say you didnt warn them Smile

For me, it all boils down to the question: when we go 'inside', do we have the ability to cross the borders of our 'own' psyche and get in touch with someone/something else?.

To me, it is very obvious we can. Funny enough, this was also the idea of Jung, who seems to be often pulled into the opposite position because of his assumed statements about archetypes....

The next thing seems to be the question if these entities, even if they are real, can do anything more than just scare us. To me, it is very obvious there are numerous ways to have a negative influence on someone, even if an entity doesnt have the ability to stab a knife or something. The separation between 'psyche' and 'matter' furthermore is an assumption I dont agree upon; to me, they are points of one spectrum.

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Last night, I finally felt the presence of Jesus finally from my astral body after remembering to call for him. For those who care to read, This is the message I sent my freind afterwards in the morning


Nice report, thanks for sharing Smile

Hyperspace Fool wrote:
There are indeed heavenly realms that are as you seem to wish them, and have been blessed to experience. These places are a joy, and all of us should shoot for them when we blast off.


Aiming for these realms looks like a pretty good 'protection' against the darker entities. They just don't like the Light that much, it seems Smile

Hyperspace Fool wrote:
I don't think that just approaching them willy nilly and "shining your lovelight" on them is always a good idea. It does work some times. But it is also likely to simply make you a victim.


Is that because of the 'approaching them willy nilly' attitude? Or because sometimes fleeing is the better option? I always seek for guidance from one of my guides, that seems to work pretty well till now...
 

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#102 Posted : 7/10/2013 9:48:06 PM

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It occurs to me that I answered this last question from cheiron pretty well a couple years back on another thread. I have since summed this stuff up on many many threads, but this post from 2011 says pretty much all that I would be rehashing here about my feelings on interacting with Dark Entities and trying to work with them.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=295588#post295588

Naturally, people called me names and pooh poohed my advice back then as well... though many of the ones who ridiculed me then have since come around. I take no pride in being right, but it is a fact that some of the people on the thread above who were the most skeptical are now PMing me for help with serious malevolent entity issues.
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#103 Posted : 7/18/2013 12:00:59 AM
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I perform an examination of conscience for one hour before launching. Spend an hour just thinking about everything I am afraid of. Once I launch, I am able to let go of all the fear, because in the previous hour I already faced it until exhaustion.

Give it a try. It takes time and will to master, but it works, for me, with any psychedelic substance, including DMT.

First I learned about this from a person considered to be an authority on the subject of psilocybin, and it made so much sense that after focusing on your deepest fears for some time, your mind is quite happy to leave these places behind and look somewhere else instead.
 
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#104 Posted : 7/18/2013 12:48:14 AM
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rave420 wrote:
I perform an examination of conscience for one hour before launching. Spend an hour just thinking about everything I am afraid of. Once I launch, I am able to let go of all the fear, because in the previous hour I already faced it until exhaustion.

Give it a try. It takes time and will to master, but it works, for me, with any psychedelic substance, including DMT.

First I learned about this from a person considered to be an authority on the subject of psilocybin, and it made so much sense that after focusing on your deepest fears for some time, your mind is quite happy to leave these places behind and look somewhere else instead.


Terence Mckenna, am i right? I have listened to so many of his lectures his words are engraved inside my mind.
 
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#105 Posted : 9/26/2013 12:28:51 PM

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Hyperspace Fool,

You mention a number times the advantage of calling upon the highest powers for assistance:
"Scores of parasites will flee at the very mention of some of the higher beings."

Is there any particularly special merit to invoking the name "Jesus" in your estimation?

There is a research group and a website dedicated to sharing how so-called "alien abductions" can be neutralized and brought to a screeching halt by simply invoking the name of Jesus with a simple faith. (http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm)

I have similarly ended sleep paralysis by instinctively calling out to "Jesus" for help in a semi-conscious state and have achieved similar results. How did I know how to do that? Not too sure.

Would you care to share your thoughts and elaborate on this particular subject?
Thanks~!
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#106 Posted : 9/26/2013 8:19:37 PM

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divineyes wrote:
Hyperspace Fool,

You mention a number times the advantage of calling upon the highest powers for assistance:
"Scores of parasites will flee at the very mention of some of the higher beings."

Is there any particularly special merit to invoking the name "Jesus" in your estimation?

There is a research group and a website dedicated to sharing how so-called "alien abductions" can be neutralized and brought to a screeching halt by simply invoking the name of Jesus with a simple faith. (http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm)

I have similarly ended sleep paralysis by instinctively calling out to "Jesus" for help in a semi-conscious state and have achieved similar results. How did I know how to do that? Not too sure.

Would you care to share your thoughts and elaborate on this particular subject?
Thanks~!


Well buddy... I would say that whatever names or personas work for you should be used. Gratitude and love are deserved in full to any being (of any sort) that takes the time to come to you in your hour of need and lend you assistance and light.

That said, I don't see JC as having any kind of monopoly on this. (no offense to my Xtian brothers and sisters)

I don't think he felt that way either. He even said that "Everything I have done, you too shall do and even more." and other such quotes that indicate that he didn't want people to have tunnel vision on him personally, but rather take on the Holy Spirit themselves. (see Acts Of The Apostles and Pentecost)

It is clear that the archangels (for instance) were doing this kind of work before Joseph or Mary (or their most distant ancestors) were even born. The Bible describes legions of various angelic beings that were created before the Earth or Humanity.

I don't think any of this should even be viewed through a set religious filter. All religions have Truth, but All of them also mess it up quite a bit IMHO. I think regardless of one's belief system, regardless of whether one finds solace from Kuan Yin or Gabriel... Avalokiteshvara or Saint Germain... whether the name Manitou or Yahweh resonates best for you... we must realize that the Infinite is Infinite. Thus, there is no limit to the number of names and facets.

Like many people, I came to see the Universe as divine and conscious. Then, my experiences led me to see that there are a plethora of Universes and dimensions to them... that Universes are stacked on top of each other nanometers apart... and that there are legions of beings that are more evolved than humanity inhabiting realms in upper dimensions... so the word Universe wasn't big enough for me anymore. Multiverse wasn't either. So, I settled on a term I use a lot... Omniverse. To me, this is bigger than anything that strictly religious terminology invokes... but is the ultimate iteration of the One G*d concept.

Any being that is closer to this, and capable of channeling more of the infinite light than you will be considered a light being in your eyes. Whether they be angel, prophet, entity, saint, ascended master, buddha, or a billion other things we don't have names for... those are the people that you need on your side. And we should be very grateful that they show interest in us at all IMHO.

So, yeah... call on Yeshua ben Yoseph if he is inclined to lend his grace to you. But all praises go to the most high... IMHO.

Be well my brother... may you be blessed with an abundance of love and light.

HF
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#107 Posted : 10/16/2013 3:46:10 AM

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cheiron wrote:
I had some experience with this. Somehow it is kind of archetypical, with the Central Light as a means to defeat Darkness. But maybe that's way these kinds of 'magic' work; the more archetypical, the more they seem to be able to connect to an individual...


This.

The last time I smoked enough DMT to break through was a bit of a dud and so were the three or so times before. They left me empty and feeling uneasy.

The last thing that happened was my room felt very off... not a good feeling. I closed my eyes and saw vague dark entities with slanted eyes and jagged teeth looking down at me. I've seen them before and they just sat there looking at me and made me feel upset that they were there and I was seeing them.

I said out loud, "I am loved." and kept repeating that over and over. I felt warm bright yellow and white energy swelling up from the center of my body. I could feel off in the very far distance a central light where love and light radiated from. The more I repeated "I am loved." the more the bright energy swelled up inside of me and the stronger I could feel the central light radiating down onto me. This positive energy became so strong it pushed away these dark entities completely.

I sat there and looked for them but hey were gone. It felt amazing. I had a huge smile on my face and it felt like fireworks were blasting out from it.

It was a very positive way to start taking a break from DMT.

I'd like to note that as long as I can remember I could close my eyes and see visions of negative scary aliens, demons, and the like. I can still close my eyes and see them but some of the fear isn't there anymore. It's a very good feeling and I bet I owe it to that last experience.
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#108 Posted : 7/20/2015 2:13:45 PM

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Such a good thread I learned a lot from reading all of it. I used to think hyperspace fool was delusional like Ska was thinking but as I learn more the more he seems to be one of the most lucid people on here. I wonder where he went...hope a monstrous dark entity didn't finally get him or something. Anyway thanks all of you for your contributions it was a great read.
 
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#109 Posted : 7/20/2015 2:49:01 PM
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I've found that rather than fighting or combating any perceived negativity it's best to give it space, smile at it, give it nothing but love, and even have the attitude 'throw your best punch'

The boogie monster lives off of your fear Smile
 
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#110 Posted : 7/20/2015 4:57:30 PM

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Great thread! I enjoyed reading through most of it (I'm still not actually done). I'll have to say, a lot of these folks with their minds, hearts and posts connected with me deeply within the entheogenic experience.

I find being solely the witness to negative entities who mean harm allows me to navigate promptly and helps to prevent any close, negative presence. It is ultimately within my own willpower unless I encounter a breakthrough dose. If a negative entity is meaning to bring negative but essential matters, I'm all ears. Shifting my attention helps, otherwise. The disturbances eventually pass and I can merge myself into a more positive space once again and engage thoughtfully and meaningfully. That's when the entities cheer and one is suddenly alive. Pleased Thumbs up
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#111 Posted : 7/20/2015 10:36:12 PM

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Well...as hyperspace fool would say to both of you as he has kept mentioning in this thread is...those techniques work for small fries but if you get any of the larger malevolent entities you're going to need some help. I wish I knew how to enlist the help of these angelic beings without having to find them in hyperspace isn't there a way?
 
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Chronic wrote:
I've found that rather than fighting or combating any perceived negativity it's best to give it space, smile at it, give it nothing but love, and even have the attitude 'throw your best punch'

The boogie monster lives off of your fear Smile



I have personally found this^^^technique to work wonders...

And if I really need to get out of a situation in hyperspace, the second I start to sing the entire trip changes drastically for the better.

Freedom's so hard
When we are all bound by laws
Etched in the scheme of nature's own hand
Unseen by all those who fail
In their pursuit of fate
 
spacexplorer
#113 Posted : 7/21/2015 4:20:18 AM

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It might work for weak parasites but the true demons can easily overcome that according to hyperspace fool
 
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ratpoison wrote:
I'm on with Hyperspace Fool here, I have met a fair amount of negative entities on my journeys and there's always some trick to get rid of them. Most of the beings I've encountered are on oral trips and pop out of nowhere at times, it seems like smudging the room and making protective energies is good against this. But in general they seem to attack your pain, fear and especially insecurities.



They are not malevolent if they show you these things to prompt you to work on them and become a stronger and loving person.
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#115 Posted : 7/21/2015 6:10:16 AM

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Grizzly Adams wrote:
ratpoison wrote:
I'm on with Hyperspace Fool here, I have met a fair amount of negative entities on my journeys and there's always some trick to get rid of them. Most of the beings I've encountered are on oral trips and pop out of nowhere at times, it seems like smudging the room and making protective energies is good against this. But in general they seem to attack your pain, fear and especially insecurities.



They are not malevolent if they show you these things to prompt you to work on them and become a stronger and loving person.


Well if a gangster comes and rapes you I guess he's helping because it shows that you need better rape protection against further rapes...Rolling eyes
 
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#116 Posted : 7/21/2015 9:24:02 AM
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spacexplorer wrote:
It might work for weak parasites but the true demons can easily overcome that according to hyperspace fool


Who can overcome love...
 
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#117 Posted : 7/21/2015 12:07:01 PM

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Chronic wrote:
spacexplorer wrote:
It might work for weak parasites but the true demons can easily overcome that according to hyperspace fool


Who can overcome love...


Well if you're 100% love all the time then no one. Unfortunately that is extremely rare. You might feel it during the peak but during the come up or comedown or anytime before or after when you're not radiating pure love you can be easily overcome unless you're some type of Buddha character.
 
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#118 Posted : 7/21/2015 12:26:08 PM

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spacexplorer wrote:
Chronic wrote:
spacexplorer wrote:
It might work for weak parasites but the true demons can easily overcome that according to hyperspace fool


Who can overcome love...


Well if you're 100% love all the time then no one. Unfortunately that is extremely rare. You might feel it during the peak but during the come up or comedown or anytime before or after when you're not radiating pure love you can be easily overcome unless you're some type of Buddha character.


It is always me, I am love when I am sober, during the coming up, peak, coming down, afterglow, .. and so on, I am now. All I do is to be love/light/whatever myself, unconditioned. I love the darkest depth of my creation and I am "enlightening" every tiny corner of this realm, I am hyperspace. I welcome all lifeforms of my omiverse (I just read this phrase yesterday and find it really appropriate) all the gods, demons, what ever comes to experience me.

I am limitless.

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#119 Posted : 7/21/2015 4:18:21 PM

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spacexplorer wrote:
Such a good thread I learned a lot from reading all of it. I used to think hyperspace fool was delusional like Ska was thinking but as I learn more the more he seems to be one of the most lucid people on here. I wonder where he went...hope a monstrous dark entity didn't finally get him or something. Anyway thanks all of you for your contributions it was a great read.

I was also recently wondering this as well. It's been quite a while since he logged into the nexus. Hope all is well in your part of the world, Hyperspace Fool!
 
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#120 Posted : 7/21/2015 6:50:43 PM

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spacexplorer wrote:
It might work for weak parasites but the true demons can easily overcome that according to hyperspace fool



I have found no negative vibe nor entity that can withstand singing.

Just my experience though.Smile
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