I'm very new to salvia and decided to try it before attempting to grow the plant myself, because I've heard it just isn't for everyone. I have some 5x salvia because I wanted to start out slowly, but I just can't seem to trip off of it. I should've obtained a higher concentration but I'm sure the next time I get salvia it'll be from my own garden. As for the present dilemma, how would you suggest tripping on a 5x extract? I smoked .3 grams in 2 bowls and held it in long, and it was very unique, but it wasn't the divine experience I'm after. I have taken half a gram and put it into an empty tea bag. I'm going to chew it for 10 minutes in silent darkness then spit it out. Does this plan seem like it would work? Is the dose different for oral ingestion? How intense do you expect a trip like this to be?

Another way you could try to use it would be through a bong. If you have something like a two foot tall bong, just pack it full and chalk it up completely. Hold it as long as you can, and repeat.

Some people just do not trip off of salvia, I am one of those people. I took 2-3 doses of 80x through a bong, each dose in one solid hit. I only got slight effects, like I had ingested maybe .5g of mushrooms AT MOST. Everyone else tripped their balls off though. So I know it was not a bad extract.

Unfortunately, you could be one of the few people that have a hard time tripping off of Salvinorin A. A small portion of the population has a natural immunity to it. At least that is what I was told and had read after my experience with it.

Save your extract for smoking, quidding it is a waste.

It'll take persistence to get the kind of experience you're after. It's just as simple as keep smoking it

I introduced salvia to a friend and I watched him take the biggest tokes of 20x from a bong I've ever seen and he didn't trip. I was shocked, but he really wanted to experience it so we waited about 10 minutes and he tried two more times. Finally on the third try I put on some music and he definitely started feeling it.

Salvia has a reverse tolerance so just keep with it and hopefully you will get what you are looking for. Also try some music, that seemed to be the main focal point of my friends experience and I believe it might have played a part in finally allowing him to let go and fully surrender to her.

Just make sure you aren't smoking massive amounts to get the effects. You should still be dosing appropriately or else when you finally break through it might be a little more than you bargained for. Just smoke your dose, wait a few minutes and try again.

Edit: Yes, save the extract for smoking. Ideally you want plain leaves for quidding.

Ok sounds good. I didn't know about the reverse tolerance that should make it easier.

The reverse tolerance may explain why I felt no effects as well. I did not know this happened.

However, I can no longer get salvia since my state has outlawed it. I wanted to try to grow some before that happened, but never got around to it. Maybe one day some luck will come my way and I can acquire some seeds

If you ever are able to grow your own salvia plant, you will need to start with a cutting. So far, salvia strains are difficult to make produce seed, and the seed is generally not viable... so if anyone sells salvia d. seeds, make lots of questions.

Thank you for this, as you can tell I am not very knoweleged in the world of Salvia. I know how to use it and all that but when it comes to growing I am clueless. If this is the case then maybe I shall have a cutting come my way one day

I want to try to work with this plant more, especially if this reverse tolerance thing is true and happens a lot.

Just to give you an idea of exactly how far you can go with reverse tolerance...

I may be a special case, but I can breakthrough with about 400mg plain leaf now. I take it in one bong toke and I'm gone. Don't even need extracts. This is after several years of using it regularly.

I was going to post about this here a little while ago, but I wasn't sure how interested this community is in Salvia or its long term effects. Basically just discussing the reverse tolerance issue and trying to further any current knowledge.

I believe microdosing with plain leaf Salvia over a period of time is what can allow someone to get such low tolerance levels, such as myself. I would take one or two bong hits of plain leaf at night after meditation. Then, I would have extract journeys approx. once every 30 - 60 days. After only a short period of following this routine I found that sometimes I was loading too much 5x and having insane 30 minute journeys.

I'm not sure if Salvia somehow permeates your system and affects a permanent change or if it's something like a learned response. With experience, your brain learns to utilize the salvinorin more efficiently and effectively.

All just speculation, but I enjoy speculating about these things