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#1 Posted : 7/11/2013 6:55:18 PM

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Apparently Adam Kokesh (the guy behind the Adam vs. The DMT YouTube series and the gun march on DC) has been arrested and charged with hallucinogenic drug possession.

The guy is nuts, but he's also quite in love with the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights. Does anyone think there's a chance he'll appeal his inevitable conviction for possesion of hallucinogens on religious freedom grounds?

He's a big name in the libertarian community, if he were to do that, I am sure that it would generate a huge amount of pro-entheogen publicity here in The States.

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A local SWAT team working with the U.S. Park Police raided the Herndon, Va. home of libertarian activist Adam Kokesh shortly before 8 p.m. last night. Kokesh was arrested and "charged with possession of schedule I or II drugs while in possession of a firearm," according to the Washington Post (The drug: psilocybin mushrooms.)

The raid--which a Kokesh roommate says involved a SWAT team knocking in Kokesh's front door then tossing a flashbang into the foyer--likely resulted from a video that shows Kokesh loading a shotgun in Freedom Square in D.C. on July 4th, in violation of D.C. law (I say "likely" because the U.S. Park Police has yet to confirm the video's role in Kokesh's arrest).

Kokesh had originally promised to lead a group of armed gun-owners across the Memorial Bridge from Virginia into D.C. When the Metropolitan Police Department promised to meet him on the D.C. side and arrest anyone violating D.C.'s gun laws, Kokesh backed down. Hence the early morning shotgun-loading video he filmed in Freedom Square. The video, titled, "Open Carry March on DC a Success," concludes with Kokesh saying, "We are the final American Revolution. See you next Independence Day."

A statement posted on Kokesh's website, Adam Vs The Man, describes the raid thusly:

Adam Kokesh Facebook pageAdam Kokesh Facebook pageOn the evening of Tuesday, 09JUL13, at approximately 7:45 PM, a combination of US Parks Police (an arm of the DHS) raided Adam Kokesh’s residence. Local Herndon police assisted in the armed invasion. The officers used a battering ram to knock in the door after two knocks, and did not announce that they had a warrant. Immediately after breaking down the door, a flash bang grenade was deployed in the foyer.

Numerous police vehicles, including a light armored vehicle and two low-flying helicopters barricaded Adam’s street. More than 20 armored SWAT team members surrounded the house, as well as a number of detectives, and plainclothes officers. Assault rifles were aimed on all members of the team as they were handcuffed without being told why they were detained. Masked and armored police in full “Storm Trooper” gear flooded in and ransacked the residence. The team was cordoned in a front room, while Adam was pulled aside for questioning.

Over the course of the next five hours, the police searched every corner of the house with canine units and blueprints to the house obtained prior to the search. All officers refused to speak to the crew while they we being detained. They confiscated cell phones and personal items with force. Throughout the ordeal, the police repeatedly showed a volatile desire to initiate aggressive, forceful conduct with detainees. At one point, Adam politely requested to use the restroom and was kicked by the officer forcing him to sit handcuffed on the floor. After hours of determined attempts, the safe was forced open and all items inside were confiscated. Adam was arrested and his crew were told he was being brought to the Herndon Police department overnight. Well after midnight, police officers cleared the house.

"Kokesh refused to be fingerprinted or arraigned, or to speak with court officials on Wednesday morning," the Post reports. He'll be arraigned tomorrow morning.


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#2 Posted : 7/11/2013 7:14:54 PM

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Well, I certainly don't like to see anybody in this kind of spot but it seemed like it was only a matter of time before this happened considering his "super-internet-dope-promotions".

I'm not a big fan of his, but I'm less a fan of our government and it's drug policy. I hope he finds a way out.
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#3 Posted : 7/11/2013 7:23:09 PM

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I'm just disappointed that he wasn't wearing his muscle shirt in his shotgun loading video.

This is the inevitable end result of desperate internet attention seeking. Hopefully, they allow him to tweet from prison.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/11/2013 7:23:38 PM


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Can't say I'm surprised. It was only a matter of time.

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#5 Posted : 7/11/2013 7:44:33 PM

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#6 Posted : 7/11/2013 8:12:43 PM

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Ya know... call me callous, but I could really give a shit what happens to this guy. I'd even go as far as to say I think that he's got it coming.

In the first place, I just don't get Americans' obsession with their guns, and I'm sick to death of all the 2nd Amendment clinging as if we're still living in a world of powdered wigs and single shot muskets. So the fuck what if he can't carry a loaded shotgun into DC? This is his response? He looks like a wild eyed and overtly threatening nut job in that video. Had I been walking with my kid through Freedom Plaza at the time and seen him loading his shotgun, I would have called 911 myself.

In the second place, if you choose to live this kind of life where you're challenging law enforcement to come and get you at every turn, don't keep drugs in your home. Because now he's a wild eyed and overtly threatening nut job who is also a user of psychedelics, and that link won't be missed by anyone. It will be used by the media to further marginalize the culture, and a correlation will be drawn between the use of psychedelics and dangerous mental instability.

He might as well be an undercover agent for The Man, for all his unwitting assistance. Plus, this will mean no more links to future muscle shirt videos, so I'm really not that busted up about it.

 
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#7 Posted : 7/11/2013 8:26:33 PM

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Because now he's a wild eyed and overtly threatening nut job who is also a user of psychedelics, and that link won't be missed by anyone. It will be used by the media to further marginalize the culture, and a correlation will be drawn between the use of psychedelics and dangerous mental instability.



I agree. Hard to imagine a worse spokesperson.

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#8 Posted : 7/11/2013 9:22:28 PM

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Loading a shotgun right smack dab in the middle of dc, and implying he's willing to use it if met with police force, blatantly advertising his drug usage on the internet and in real life, calling for an armed revolution against the federal government.....

Not saying any of those activities SHOULD get you thrown behind bars, but knowing the law as it is now, what the hell did he expect.

I'm surprised he didn't get shot in the raid. Whatever legal problems arise from this, its his own fault and i don't feel sorry for him.

I can relate to his attitude that his activities harmed no one, and most of it was just civil disobedience, but he crossed the line when he made threats, and posted them on YouTube under his name. Violence begets violence, and he's not going to get anywhere with these tactics but a long prison sentence.

That alone can get you years in prison. Stack the drug charges on top, and he's in a world or shit right now. Should know better than to keep S1's in a safe in his home. Especially if your going to be so vocal about your usage of them.
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#9 Posted : 7/11/2013 11:01:49 PM
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:
The guy is nuts, but he's also quite in love with the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights. Does anyone think there's a chance he'll appeal his inevitable conviction for possesion of hallucinogens on religious freedom grounds?

He's a big name in the libertarian community, if he were to do that, I am sure that it would generate a huge amount of pro-entheogen publicity here in The States.


I think if he were to do that than he'd need one hell of a good lawyer to back him up IF it were to ever get to trial. I can see how this would create more publicity about the pro-entheogen community, but because this guy is nuts and reckless with his actions, I can see where the media could turn it into "if he's nuts than so could others in this community" in an attempt to escalate things.
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#10 Posted : 7/11/2013 11:10:19 PM

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WEM wrote:
Nathanial.Dread wrote:
The guy is nuts, but he's also quite in love with the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights. Does anyone think there's a chance he'll appeal his inevitable conviction for possesion of hallucinogens on religious freedom grounds?

He's a big name in the libertarian community, if he were to do that, I am sure that it would generate a huge amount of pro-entheogen publicity here in The States.


I think if he were to do that than he'd need one hell of a good lawyer to back him up IF it were to ever get to trial. I can see how this would create more publicity about the pro-entheogen community, but because this guy is nuts and reckless with his actions, I can see where the media could turn it into "if he's nuts than so could others in this community" in an attempt to escalate things.


I think he would be the worst possible person to act as a representative of the entheogen community in a appeal against "one" of the many charges being filed against him.

Yes, all he really did was break laws that many consider unjust, but the presentation of his actions make him appear to be advocating violent force against the federal government, not just non-cooperation.

This video was all i needed to see-



Thats why he was raided by the feds.

Thats not an accurate figurehead of psychedelic users by any account by and large.

He made the mistake of thinking he can change the world, the government, for the better with a gun. That never works out, even from people with the best of intentions.

You wan't to change the world, don't mimic the tactics of the aggressors you take issue with. Don't fight fire with fire. He needs to realize taking the armed, violent route to change in governance, is going to do far more bad than good, cause far more suffering than healing, and by and large make it very easy for the media to misrepresent the legitimate grievances he has with the feds.

I hope the drug part of his inevitable conviction is not focused upon. IT will bring nothing but bad publicity and loss of progress to the cause of legalization of drugs, psychedelics or not, for any reason.
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#12 Posted : 7/11/2013 11:30:10 PM

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I'd not seen that video before, what a tool.
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The Day Tripper wrote:
He made the mistake of thinking he can change the world, the government, for the better with a gun. That never works out, even from people with the best of intentions.

You wan't to change the world, don't mimic the tactics of the aggressors you take issue with. Don't fight fire with fire. He needs to realize taking the armed, violent route to change in governance, is going to do far more bad than good, cause far more suffering than healing, and by and large make it very easy for the media to misrepresent the legitimate grievances he has with the feds.

I hope the drug part of his inevitable conviction is not focused upon. IT will bring nothing but bad publicity and loss of progress to the cause of legalization of drugs, psychedelics or not, for any reason.


My sentiments exactly
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#14 Posted : 7/12/2013 4:35:00 AM

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i believe that is how the quote goes....
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I'd not seen that video before, what a tool.

But, we're the bitch-made hamsters -- right? Rolling eyes

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His videos are kinda funny, in a tragically campish way.

The fact that people subscribe to his cult of personality, is the sad part of it all.

Heres another real jem showing how much of a pathetic joke kokesh really is.



So easy the guy could do it while cooking pancakes, bacon, & eggs on a grill Laughing Thumbs up
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The Greeks had a term for a soldier in a hyper=focused mind state during battle. Blood drunk.
The man feels no pain, no fear, no mercy, and no humility. The warrior is so intensely focused on the objective, wielding their long sword of contempt and arrogance they believe themselves invincible. And until this un tethered energy and ego have a moment of pause they are invincible.

The psychedelic experience can be so strong in some that the struggle begins. People can feel THEY KNOW, and need to "help" the naive feeble out by sharing their infallible knowledge.

A person can begin to feel they are un-touchable and even if they are harmed the rally of "the enlightened mass's" will make one a hero, a liberator, a legend, all to go down in infamy.
Some people endow much more courage than sense and couple that wirh a keen mind and intellect things can get very peculiar and interesting.

I know these things because I have been there to varying degrees. Brought to the point of mental fracture from experiencing more out there and intense states than I have ever read or been told about.


The reason I have been such a strong proponent and continuously advocate staying grounded while taking all the experiences with a grain of salt is exactly this. I have seen how the power of the psychedelic experience can be so intensenthat delusions of grandeur grow like wildfire and can give way to irrational acts. In my opinion, this person was certainly showing tell tale signs of graduating to the next level.

Is anyone really surprised or feel the LEO are wrong to act? What kind of blamed liability would everyone be asserting right here if this was after a mass killing spree by this same fellow?

When somebody is so quick to broadcast to such a huge audience blatantly illegal and radical videos like that, knowing the world they live in and the repercussions that were likely, well that person just doesn't give a F'k. And if they don't give a F'k horrible acts can and often do follow. Hell...if my civil authorities didn't do something with this person. That would cause me outrageous feelings, not this. This, this was pretty damn open and shut situation IMO.

. Sitting in a cold jail cell the grandeur sure does dissipate quickly. One tends to see clearly the corpse of the egoic charge that just came crashing onto the ground. It is in this time that one can either pull out of this death spiral by seeing their arrogance and true motivations or continue the delusion and their personal demise.

He was resorting to violence. Do not kid yourself. Loading a G-damn shot gun with 00 man killing shells on video making vengeful, threatening statements on camera in a major city is completely over the top and couldn't be further out of alignment of the actions from a person that has worked honestly with these substances and teachers.

The fact our name was spoken multiple times in this video is unfortunate. All by a spokesperson who is so clearly misguided and spell bound by the very thing he feels he is the master of. He hasn't even left the starting gate but feels he is crossing for a photo finish. He is to the letter of the definition, a fool.

He is not the first. He will not be the last. Pay it no mind as nothing productive can come from it feeding it. Ignore him and let him go down hard with zero chatter or fan fare. That's the only thing anyone can now do to possibly discourage not only this person but these types of misguided psychedelic spokespeople.



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#18 Posted : 7/12/2013 9:04:44 AM

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This guy makes us all look bad, and all of the publicity around his antics and arrest only worsen things.

Are we just begging for yet another cultural backlash? This is the kind of crap that gives the terrified dinosaurs an excuse to trample on anything that might be viewed as progressive. It's a shame that, as a society and a cultural movement, the psychedelic community lacks the discipline and wisdom to teach ourselves more constructive ways of behaving. In the west, it's "He who is loudest wins"... and we're giving these idiots our megaphones. Literally.
 
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I remember thinking he was an idiot when he posted videos of himself smoking DMT on YT. Now this. Beyond idiotic. Neutral
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If the "raid" went down anything like it was described, it'll be the legal "battle" that Adam wants anyhow.

If that raid really happened that way, he would most likely find a way to get off. Tho This fella appears to put himself in the "terrorist" genre, which may be a game changer.

From the outside looking in, considering the manner in which the LEO raided the place, I'd wager that the magic mushrooms were planted when nothing else was found. Or at least I HIGHLY doubt they raided the place with helicopters and swat teams etc etc and NOT found anything :-)
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