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meekerba
#1 Posted : 7/2/2013 2:50:18 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/ch...ine-habit-125534752.html


can anyone count how many wrong things were said?Sad
 

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#2 Posted : 7/2/2013 4:48:19 AM

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Uh...not that many?

I am not sure if there is anything particularly shocking. Most cultures with access to nicotine have developed it. I also know for a fact that cebil seeds can be (and have been) used as a snuff, and a are active if smoked.

In fact, I found the article interesting. It did a good job of talking about DMT without making the usual references to the way it can be manufactured like meth.

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#3 Posted : 7/2/2013 6:11:36 AM

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Yeah I'm not sure whats so sad about this? they weren't trying to demonise it based on how I interpreted the article
 
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#4 Posted : 7/2/2013 5:09:05 PM

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This;

http://www.livescience.c...oms-ecstasy-history.html

link at the bottom has some pretty positive, or at least non negative "intros"to8 hallucinogens.
There is a large amount of rational reporting on drug issues suddenly.

And i too found the article fascinating, actually.
Truly not ganging up on you, but why did you feel that way, OP?
Is there like a knee jerk reaction to any mainstream publication of psychedelic issues?
I get that, really do, its something dear to you're heart you've seen pilloried repeatedly, maybe?
I felt that way when they sold punk rock.
But there is a wave of reason sweeping the states right now,I love next to a state that had legal recreational pot.h TV
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#5 Posted : 7/2/2013 6:08:23 PM

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I could not spot anything erroneous in the article.

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#6 Posted : 7/2/2013 6:33:09 PM

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null24 wrote:
This;

http://www.livescience.c...oms-ecstasy-history.html

link at the bottom has some pretty positive, or at least non negative "intros"to8 hallucinogens.
There is a large amount of rational reporting on drug issues suddenly.

And i too found the article fascinating, actually.
Truly not ganging up on you, but why did you feel that way, OP?
Is there like a knee jerk reaction to any mainstream publication of psychedelic issues?
I get that, really do, its something dear to you're heart you've seen pilloried repeatedly, maybe?
I felt that way when they sold punk rock.
But there is a wave of reason sweeping the states right now,I love next to a state that had legal recreational pot.h TV

Why do they always seem to pick that passage where the poor woman goes to Hell? What about the next part where she leaves Hell, goes to Heaven and makes peace with God?
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#7 Posted : 7/2/2013 10:07:43 PM

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Ha! Really.
I'm not familiar with the aya article mentioned, but I didn't really even read out like that, since it was pointed out that she overcame"debilitating depression"
But I get you, maybe a space issue with that particular 8 trippy whatever article.
I still liked it.
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meekerba
#8 Posted : 7/2/2013 11:18:15 PM
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No harsh feelings brothers (and sisters)

it's just that:

"The idea was that around A.D. 400, people in San Pedro de Atacama (SPA) smoked tobacco in pipes, and then after that time, they gradually switched to inhaling dimethyltryptamines in snuffing trays,"

Nobody gradually switches from nicotine to dmt, it's crazy talk.

each drug is at the opposite end of the spectrum.

I guess the article's not TERRIBLE, but still not totally great...
 
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#9 Posted : 7/2/2013 11:51:36 PM

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meekerba wrote:
"The idea was that around A.D. 400, people in San Pedro de Atacama (SPA) smoked tobacco in pipes, and then after that time, they gradually switched to inhaling dimethyltryptamines in snuffing trays,"

Nobody gradually switches from nicotine to dmt, it's crazy talk.


Why not? I wish I had switched from nicotine to tryptamines way earlier in my life.

And what if people in SPA spent ages smoking tobacco until they discovered something more interesting and decided to start using it instead of tobacco leaves? Societies change, their needs change, and some times they change because they found new tools. I see nothing crazy about that, and the article makes no judgements.
 
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#10 Posted : 7/3/2013 1:30:44 AM

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meekerba wrote:
"The idea was that around A.D. 400, people in San Pedro de Atacama (SPA) smoked tobacco in pipes, and then after that time, they gradually switched to inhaling dimethyltryptamines in snuffing trays,"

Nobody gradually switches from nicotine to dmt, it's crazy talk.

each drug is at the opposite end of the spectrum.

I guess the article's not TERRIBLE, but still not totally great...


You just took this statement out of context, the article actually refutes it. See below:

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The finding refutes the popular view that the group living in this region smoked tobacco for just a short stint before moving on to snuffing hallucinogens.

"The idea was that around A.D. 400, people in San Pedro de Atacama (SPA) smoked tobacco in pipes, and then after that time, they gradually switched to inhaling dimethyltryptamines in snuffing trays," said study co-author Hermann Niemeyer, an organic chemist at the University of Chile in Santiago. "What we show is that's not correct."
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