IMO people who try psychedelics and don't like them seem scared of themselves. Has anyone else witnessed this?

It seems like of the people I know who have had bad trips on psychedelics and who discount them, lie to themselves.

To what degree do you think people are just simply scared of psychedelics?

I don't think its true that people who dislike psychedelics are scared of themselves. While some can't handle seeing themselves under a different light resulting in a negative trip its only one of many many reasons. some just simply don't enjoy the altered state. while some of us love it.

IMO I have no opinion of people who take psychedelics and are greeted by fear..

Why would it be my place to determine any judgement against another persons difficulty in approaching or meeting a situation?

Respectfully, I think people who offer opinion on others in this way should focus more on themselves.

I feel absolutely the same way. Bob Marley said this about Cannabis once:
"The Herb reveals you to yourself." This could be said about all Psychedelics.

The content of a DMT or LSD trip is not in the DMT or LSD itself: it is content
of the user's mind. Content that has been burried beneath psychological barriers.

All Psychedelics do is dissolve barriers, allowing repressed psychological material
(Trauma as well as Joy/Creativity) to resurface & be relived.


So indeed if someone is affraid of the content of a psychedelic experience, they
are essentially terrified of themselves on a deep psychological level. No matter
how bad many people want to denie that those traumatised, disfunctional & repressed
memories & desires are parts of their self, they ARE part of our Psyche.

It's just that those in denial of the less charming parts of their soul can no longer
keep up this denial under the influence of a Psychedelic; Barriers dissolve and the
parts of themselves they find unacceptable resurface; A bad trip is born.


Simply because I will not denie any part of myself I do not fear bad trips anymore.
I still subconsciously repress experiences, like any other, but unlike most people
around me I dig to uncover the truth of issues, so I might 1 day understand and solve them.

I'm eager to confront the repressed parts of my Psyche, because I know that burrying them
deeply inside of me where I can't see it will just mean breeding a monster inside of me, giving it power untill it can overtake my personality. I will not allow monsters to grow
inside of me and I do not fear their theatrical attempts to dissuade me when I confront them.

I disagree, I had years of psychedelic use that had nothing to do with the self or my psyche, there were no realisations, no changing myself for the better or any of the associated hippy nonsence , we just sat in a field or house and laughed at how trippy everything was, people who went bad did so because they couldnt handle the fact that the world was melting, they didn't go bad because they were scared of themselves.

I love psyches but I have had a couple of bad trips, I don't associate them with the fear of self, I'm sure it could be the reason for some people but by no means all.

Some people just don't like tripping and sometimes people take to much.

Sometimes depending on the psychedelic, the person, the set and setting in which it was consumed/experienced, etc...can all add up for physically and emotionally uncomfortable experiences. Perhaps if a certain person were to take LSD instead of having taking mushrooms, they might not have freaked out. Or maybe if they had smoked DMT instead of salvia, or even just a little less DMT, everything would turn out wonderful. Some people can have terrible luck on their initial encounters with psychedelics which could also add up to nothing more than luck potentially. If by chance the DMT experience they had was a sacred, beautiful, blissful vision instead of a super-charged fast-forward, nauseating madhouse, then that person is more likely to try DMT again and potentially pursue it for similar experiences. If you get a crapshoot at first, it might simply not seem worth your while to continue on, but another day - another hour - a life could have been changed.

...That you were aware of?
Just opening the possibility that some changes might happen out of the aware-scope.

I've never had contact with entities, but far from my mind is the conviction that "there were no".
No proof in either direction, there remains an uncertain possibility.

Some people don't like losing control. many times
They're not aware of this until the impending approach of a trip .

I 've known people that are actually afraid of what they might have to face
In a trip . Clearly there's no hard n fast rule to this .

Put simply, psychedelics are not for everyone .

Hi Jees

Fair point I guess, there could have been some switches flicked that I don't know about.

My point was more that while I currently seem to have lots of realisations when using psyches, in the old days it was all about getting high and it only went bad when the intensity of the experience got to high.

There are many factors that come into play when someone tries a psychedelic and doesn't like it. Not to say that what your sayijg is wrong, it's very well possible that those people were scared of themselves or saw/felt something that they do not wish to face.

I resonate with 3rdi's experience. All of my early psychedelic use was simple tripping. None of the deep spiritual stuff I experience now. I agree that your scope of awareness can play a role in this, but it's my belief that its more about your state of mind at the time. There may not be any of that their if its not your mindset. Although I don't think it's that important as to whether or not its there. You get the experience that is for you at that time.

Someone's dislike of a psychedelic can be any one of the many things you experience. I don't like being sick because it restricts my ability to do things. I know of more than one person that doesn't like mushrooms for this same reason.

I think it can be quite beneficial to lie to yourself on occasion.
When we all used to trip in our teenage years it was all fun and games with the odd uncomfortable moment. But once i hit my 20s i became both analytical and critical of myself and sometimes it became more of a problem. If i was on my own i never had any worries.
In my 20s i would only be happy tripping with a couple of close friends. So i guess being uncomfortable tripping round others is a manifestation of not being comfortable with yourself.
I have always liked psychedelics even if i haven"t always been comfortable with myself.

Wow a lot of responses very quickly.

Simply what I have observed of people having bad trips were those who resisted, they were scared of letting the drug take hold and work its magic, they wanted to come down before they were even all the way up.

3rdI when you talk about tripping just for kicks, I did that plenty, that was actually when I experienced the worst trips for myself and for others. IMO when you go to trip just for kicks your disregarding a certain aspect of psychedelics, which is the mystery they bring you face to face with. This scares people ime.

Sadly people who I have known who have bad trips never got past the fear, never let go of their ego. For me ego loss is a most blissful albeit terrifying experience.

SKA is agree with what you say, If your willing to confront your shadow then there really is nothing to fear. Given proper set and setting.

I've met myself coming back and been scared to death on many occasions.

I'd be surprised if anyone who uses psychedelics in such a way that they are pushing themselves to learn had not at some point been scared of themselves and had this linger for at least a short period of time afterwards.

My question is can we really expect everyone in the world to have the same tastes ?

A female friend of mine, I asked her if she was going to shroom with us later and she said 'no I don't like psychedelics. I'm not that comfortable with myself'.

Refreshing honesty!

Everyone's situation is different though, so broad generalizations should maybe be avoided.