Well ZP, we do have the "Through The Looking Glass" sub-forum. It is a place where just about anything goes, and the members who tend to poo poo unfounded claims and speculation are not allowed to denigrate the posters.

It is pretty much a ghost town though, as it doesn't show up in search indexes or even active topics as I recall. You basically have to go looking for it... and then sit there talking to yourself.

But it was a small win for mystics, wild eyed paranoids and other such "minority" groups here. Far better than the total ban that had been the policy at that time. I put the quotation marks around minority because if you count new members, people who go elsewhere to discuss controversial things, and people who don't post much, I think that it is iffy if people who ascribe to such outlandish ideas, or at least like to discuss them, are much of a minority.

I find that a lot of people come to the Nexus expecting to find like-minded people who have had similar inexplicable, mysterious, spiritual and mystical experiences and be able to discuss the more astonishing aspects of the DMT experience... and then wind up getting discouraged as even relatively mundane speculations are shot down and people are pilloried as being non-critical thinkers etc. This has toned down a lot over the last 9 months or so, but there are still core members and mods here who will delete or lock threads for merely stating things that are not backed up with "respectable" sources... without a healthy amount of disclaimers and IMOs attached.

It is kind of unfortunate that TTLG is under the Spirituality heading, as it would probably be the right place to discuss some CT things which are clearly not spiritual. Perhaps we can appeal to the higher powers to make TTLG its own section and open it up to some CT talk.

I don't know. It is not something that is important enough to me to take point on.

I prefer not to push the buttons of people here who I otherwise tend to agree with and sincerely love and respect. Even my mentioning of a handful of former CTs that have come to be known as truth ruffled some feathers. My dear friend and brother in arms Trav even thought it necessary to suggest that I was so addle brained that I was saying that because some CTs prove to be true... then all CTs are true. And this after all my threads on logical fallacies no less...

As such I refrained from mentioning at least a dozen other CT things that have come to be known as truth over the last decade. Perhaps we can start a well disclaimered "Exploration of CTs and former CTs that have been proven true" thread in TTLG. I would enjoy it at any rate, and most of the people who wouldn't would never see it anyway.

HF

A lot of what you say is what I found initially disorientating (as stated in a previous comment).. The way things were headed so to speak.

I shall have to take a peek at the looking glass subforums. Cheers for the heads up.

I can kind of see the reasoning of keeping such things more hidden (for want of a better word). Some people looking "outward in" to this site, with no real care for what it is about (haters, trolls, naysayers, deniers, call em what you will) would likely just be served additional ammo to denigrate and generally do what they do to try and throw a spanner in what many of us do.

Why paint a target on the collective self I guess.. It's all very pernicious (imo) but such are the times we live in I feel.

Hopefully as consciousness raises and unites such things will fall to the wayside and scope will be expanded in all ways for things to just be more open and treated with good old fashioned respect and diplomacy.

Peace to all

Rex-84

Among other Executive orders, and continuity of government systems, the existence, or at least legal authority to build fema camps to detain dissidents is factual.

And iirc, were still in a state of national emergency, or at least the one bush enacted after 9/11 was extended in 2010 by obama, and in all likelihood still is technically in place.

Edit- Yes, it is still in place-

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-p...certain-terrorist-attack

And i'm sure it will be renewed yearly right around 9/11 for many years to come.

I have nothing else to say in this thread. I think it should be locked, or we all should take it down a notch, myself included, since the civility of the posts has declined. Not blaming anyone, just saying the atmosphere is a bit hostile, when it need not be.

Looks like I should put on my orthopedic shoes about those camps, and stand corrected.

If anyone was offended by what I've said, I did not intend for that to occur.

I value the perspectives that have been shown here, and I did not intend to say anything to add hostility to the thread.

I ask that this thread not yet be locked; this has been great as an area to vent about the problems we face, and our perspectives on them.

* couldn't make a topic under "News"...

The following is a small step in the right direction:

9-11 families can sue Saudi Arabia, court rules.
One thing left out of that article is that 15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9-11 were from Saudi Arabia.

This is all that really needs to be said from my point of view.

Forget recreational use, for spiritual 'enlightenment', or what have you. These medicines saved my life, and they try to deny me access to life saving medicine. Inexcusable.

I believe the Government as a whole is not at fault. For example, the police and officeworkers are only doing their jobs to survive. They don't make the rules, they just carry them out and enforce them. The real culprits are those that are running the show (I don't know who does, but I know someone does- and they are very influential).
Can I forgive those who are the cause? No, because they don't feel guilty.
The Government is meant to help people, not enslave them.
The system is all backward

man, these pages sure filled up fast

how could you not forgive ignoramuses for being ignorant?

i very much doubt a single government employee goes to work wishing to make the world a worse place.