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Father Time
#1 Posted : 5/7/2013 6:08:04 AM

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hello fellow nexans, i was finally given the privilege to post in the botanical section Smile

the goal of this thread is to see what everyone is growing and to help each other out with growing tips and just have fun !!

well hey guys, i'm not sure this is the best place to p

#1 is my baby ...... P. viridis SO EXCITED !!!



One month later its on it 5th leaf set (hard to see sorry)
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now some tips and info on viridis from my personal experience.....
1. leaves curling in and browning on the edge = to low humidity
2. viridis must be shaded as to not stunt the growth
3. P.V. seems to like a 50/50 perlite vermiculite mix the best
4. RO water or distilled water with cal-mag ph'ed at bout 6 to 6.3 seems to work well
5. viridis must be acclimated very very slowly to fast and the leaves droop, curl in, then brown

hope this helps someone ^ again its just from my experience



3/15/2013: and here is my update on my new plants Smile
torch Smile

and bitter calea Smile

the bitter cal had a light fall on it and burn it up... i thought it was dead and hoped irrationally that i could bring it back so i watered it for 3 weeks and to my surprise it popped back up with new growth Smile


the cal is very good at letting you know when it does not like its setting. "sun burns" when getting to much light or heat. the leaves get a reddish tint its pretty cool!!!

5/6/13: the torch, its bigger !!




golden teacher 100% Pleased


the newest addition to the family

b. caapi "cielo" Smile


family photo


plants i would like to get very soon:
banisteriopsis caapi the "tucunaca" type
another Sinicuichi
maybe some more cacti soon
MOST DESIRED... Salvia divinorum but i cant for the life of me get my hands on any cuttings Sad

also im open to any suggestions i love growing plants that have an effect on the human state of mind i just find it fascinating!!

does anyone know if passiflora caerulea is active? and safe? because ill be acquiring one or two tomorrow


thanks-


Share pics of what you guys enjoy growing,tips,& suggestionsSmile its always nice to see what others are doing Smile and maybe if we have enough growing tips we can create a little grow guide to help others growing these rare and wonderful plants.


peace all !!

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#2 Posted : 6/13/2013 4:16:24 AM

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Alittle update:
All the plants are doing great!!! I'm having a hell of a time acclimating the viridis but other than that no issues


Pics!!
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#3 Posted : 6/13/2013 4:26:20 AM

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Also started on psychotria leaf propagation check it out
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#4 Posted : 6/13/2013 5:28:55 AM

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I'd pull those leaves back so about 1/2 to 2/3 of the leaf is exposed. It'll keep the leaf healthy longer if it can photosynthesize, and the shoot(s) which usually comes from petiole area won't have so far to go to reach the surface.

Just keep the humidity up and you'll be golden!

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#5 Posted : 6/13/2013 7:00:51 PM

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Ok, thanks for the tip ill be sure to pull the leaves out Abit !! And on the humidity I have the clear wrap on top and I mist it ever two days or so, I'm wondering if I should most it more ?
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#6 Posted : 6/14/2013 12:25:17 AM

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In regards to your humidity question, depending on your lights, and light schedule, if you introduced a dark cycle (if your at 24/0 atm, or add more dark hours) that lets the room cool down, then when the lights fire up and things get cooking, the dew goes back into the air again, humidifying it.
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#7 Posted : 6/14/2013 2:55:54 AM

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I usually start them in a 4" pot, 3 leaves per pot, and then enclose the whole thing in a ziploc bag, set it under flouros on a timer set for 12/12, and forget about it for a month or three. Done this way you don't have to worry about misting, and they don't seem to mind being closed up like that.

When you see shoots breaking the soil surface open the bag and close it back up every couple days for some air circulation. Once the leaves start forming you can open the bag bit by bit to acclimate them to drier air.

They really like to be outside in the hot humid summer under dapple shade, so don't be shy about trying that if you live in a suitable area.

Nice looking Calea there, BTW Smile, but your caapi looks distinctly yellow. Looks like it needs more water and ferts.
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#8 Posted : 6/14/2013 3:46:18 AM

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pinkoyd wrote:
I usually start them in a 4" pot, 3 leaves per pot, and then enclose the whole thing in a ziploc bag, set it under flouros on a timer set for 12/12, and forget about it for a month or three. Done this way you don't have to worry about misting, and they don't seem to mind being closed up like that.

When you see shoots breaking the soil surface open the bag and close it back up every couple days for some air circulation. Once the leaves start forming you can open the bag bit by bit to acclimate them to drier air.

They really like to be outside in the hot humid summer under dapple shade, so don't be shy about trying that if you live in a suitable area.

Nice looking Calea there, BTW Smile, but your caapi looks distinctly yellow. Looks like it needs more water and ferts.


thanks, that calea is miraculous!! it died when a light fell on it an burnt it up and i watered and watered it and it came back Smile and its a bitter calea too!!! its getting the good ole switch over to the 60/40 here soon as im positive its root mass has overcome that little bitty cup its in

on the b. caapi you are very on par,that pic was right before it received water, & if you notice the new leaf at the top is a nice green. what happened is that the caapi wasnt taking well to the soil(which was also caked with fungus gnats) that it was shipped in and it started going deficient on me so i swapped it over to my 60/40 perlite vermiculite and gave it distilled water with cal-mag supplement and the occasional full spectrum nutes and now its super happy now its been pooping out green leaves like a machine Smile


i have a bad track record with organic soils Very happy so i just stick to what im good at... the inert stuff that i get to control the nutrient composition of Smile

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#9 Posted : 6/14/2013 5:14:06 AM

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The Day Tripper wrote:
In regards to your humidity question, depending on your lights, and light schedule, if you introduced a dark cycle (if your at 24/0 atm, or add more dark hours) that lets the room cool down, then when the lights fire up and things get cooking, the dew goes back into the air again, humidifying it.


i dont know that the lights are hot enough its just a closet light, i was told not to set the cuttings in the tent with direct light?
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#10 Posted : 6/25/2013 1:15:12 AM

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ahh roots after only 9.5 days Smile
this is one of the viridis leaves i put out side in a flower pot, it was watered every night as the temps run about 92-100F during the day.
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#11 Posted : 6/25/2013 3:56:15 AM

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Ah, great job with the viridis! I'm jealous =)


I got a couple leaves a few weeks ago myself but it looks like mold is going to finish them off.. there's still a touch of green near the soil so I'm not giving up quite yet
 
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#12 Posted : 6/25/2013 4:50:27 AM

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Ah, great job with the viridis! I'm jealous =)


I got a couple leaves a few weeks ago myself but it looks like mold is going to finish them off.. there's still a touch of green near the soil so I'm not giving up quite yet


hey thanks for the kind words!! all the leaves are planted differently as a kind of experiment if you will, the one shown was about 4 inchs under (no tip or anything exposed) a cheap Miracle Grow potting soil in a pot out side with a drip line that comes on every evening, the others i have not checked yet but some where planted in different soils and some where fully submerged, while some where not, some cut in half and some just snapped along the main vein of the leaf, some with rooting hormone some with out so im interested to see how this pans out Smile ill keep you all up to date

and what are the conditions of your propagation i haven't heard many people having mold issues ,though then again im pretty new to this.


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#13 Posted : 6/25/2013 1:59:21 PM

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I had two leaves to work with. One I had cut into 3 sections, the other, I left whole and simply stuck it in the soil maybe 1/3 of the way.

I had them in an aquarium that I use to start seedlings/cuttings. It maintains high humidity, about 85f, led grow lights. I've used that successfully for P. Alba cuttings in the past so I figured it was a good place to root the Viridis. But I think where I went wrong was when I noticed the tips were starting to brown so I then put some glass jars over them to keep the humidity higher. I think the lack of air-flow may have been what really contributed most to their demise.

 
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#14 Posted : 6/25/2013 8:12:16 PM

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Ahhh yea that sounds right, now that you talk about mold I just found mold on my pf cake....Sad never got anything out of it cause it took almost 2 months to pin after proper concolidation... And it took almost a two monthes to colonize and 3 weeks to even germ so I guess I'm not suprized it got moldy after being birthed for 2 months but dang that thing grew SLOWWWW

Back to your mold issue, I think one reason yours may mold alittle easier is that all of yours are inside and there tends to be alot of mold spores in your home and then I'm sure the glass didn't help at all. But for future reference my tip was brown too (about and inch) I just left it and it seems to be fine so far, although I havnt checked any of the indoor ones I did
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Ah, bummer about the mold on your cake! What strain was it? Of course not the only factor, just curious. hopefully you get some out of your others..

Very possible about being indoors (in my filthy basement). I previously used the tank as a FC for mushies without too much trouble from mold, but I cleaned the hell out of it and all FAE was HEPA filtered. Since I converted it to a seedling nursery, I haven't been as neurotic about keeping it sanitary.

Rooting Viridis outside would probably be a good option for me now that summer is here. For some reason it just didn't dawn on me to do that with these. I just stuck to what had been successful with the P. Alba and didn't question it. I will give it a try outside in my greenhouse next timeSmile
 
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#16 Posted : 7/4/2013 6:55:58 AM

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Hey, it was golden teacher, for some reason that cake took far to long to colonize and pin the new ones I just started with the same spore syringe and they are about fully colonized and its only been like two and a half weeks so idk what was up with the last cake. I mean I know why it started to mold... It's because it took as long as 3 or 4 flushes of a regular cake just to pin but I don't know why went so slow in every aspect & yea I had no clue that the viridis leaves would root fast outside I just tossed a few outside to see how it would go Smile

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#17 Posted : 7/4/2013 7:04:29 AM

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New additions to the fam Smile
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Psychotria alba rooted cutting with a shoot
B. muricata- lost all its leave because the postal service sucks sometimes
An the bitter calea z is shooting up like crazy!!
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Drool Wow man those are some beautiful plants, very nicely done. You do a lot of little things that many people are to lazy to think of, like you humidity bags ( I like Wink )
Are you thinking of getting some yote? If you are id get that going soon, for obvious reasons, lol. Good luck!

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Drool Wow man those are some beautiful plants, very nicely done. You do a lot of little things that many people are to lazy to think of, like you humidity bags ( I like Wink )
Are you thinking of getting some yote? If you are id get that going soon, for obvious reasons, lol. Good luck!

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Thanks Smile I try to not be lazy with stuff as I already have a hard time keeping things alive Very happy
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Trichocereus Peruvianus (5)
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It's still early days but I thought I'd share this photo, of approximately 150 Peruvian Torch. I've also got some San Pedro growing and some Psychotria Viridis cuttings in a humidity chamber.

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