yea..a hotplate is just a mini electric stove top...which SWIM doesnt have..so hotplate

Ah wait. Just to be clear I wasn't talking about a cooker top, but an actual oven with a door that goes up to 250C. The Limonene would go in a crock pot inside there.

uhhhh..i suppose that could work..but it may give you unforeseen problems...ive never heard of anybody boiling stuff in an oven before...i would almost say...not to do it..but maybe somebody else can give more info

SWIM just thought of something...the melting temp of bufotenine is around 147 degrees C..so if you put the d-limo in your oven at say 150C(just want it a bit higher than the melting temp) well..you would probably get a cleaner product...because SWIM noticed that if he actually brings the d-limo up to a boil..the resulting bufo is a bit darker than if you dont bring it to a full boil..

good to know...

I'll probably try this when I get round to that stage, but I won't rely on the ovens thermostat. What with fans and all that I'll probably use a heat probe just to make sure things are just right.

I couldn't find D-limonene persay, but i did find a wood furnature cleaner made from "100% Orange Oil, Made From Orange Peels"which im assuming means D-limonene. Or is there a different oil that can be extracted from Orange Peels?

Got a link or an MSDS?

What's the product name? Orange oil is about 95% d-limonene.

Its called orange oil furniture polish. The companies name is howard. The thing I was apprehensive about is that it is yellow instead of green. On the back it said 'contains pure natural orange oil, does not contain silicon or linseed oil'

EDIT: Directly beneath that it says ' Danger: Contains petroleum distillate. Harmful or fatal if swallowed. do not induce vomiting etc, etc.

d-limonene is clear..not green or yellow

Yeah d-limonene is completely clear.

Seems to me a merchant could buy a large wholesale lot of food grade GreenTerpene d-limonene and sell it over seas for good profit. I'm sure there are many Europeans and people in the UK that would love to go green with all their solvent use. There are so many good uses for d-limonene. It can replace many solvents in many industries. It costs more than naphtha and similar solvents but because it’s a "GREEN" solvent, I think it's worth the extract money. It’s far better for the environment than most of the other solvents. You would think that the green movement would catch on to using d-limonene.

Personally, if there are two products, one is toxic and poisons the environment and another is all natural, non-toxic and biodegradable, I would always choose the natural product unless it was way too expensive to afford it. D-limonene isn't that expensive. It is more expansive than naphtha, acetone, etc., but the extra expense is justified in my opinion. And I'm sure if everyone started using it the price would drop.

I use it for a lot of things around the house. It’s great for removing stickers that the kids put all over the place. Just put some on a paper towel and soak the sticker a little with it and it easily peels right off. Then wipe the remaining sticky residue with a paper towel soaked in d-limonene and it’s all gone. It can dissolve tough grease pretty easily so it’s great for cleaning pans. It has such a nice smell too. If you mix a little into some soap, it can cut grease with amazing power. After working on your car, your hands are sometimes covered with grease that’s impossible to get off with soap, but add a few drops of d-limonene to the soap and it comes right off. It’s even useful as a fresh smelling deodorant. This stuff in fantastic.

aww dang, I guess I'm going to have to use xylene then. I'm assuming bringing it to a simmer instead of a full boil would be better with xylene too?

just out of curiosity, does one have delayed reactions on bufotenin?

No, boil the xylene for 5 minutes or it doesn't work well.

Any chance ascorbic acid (Vitamin C), could work in place of fumaric acid in FASA?

SWIM by bizarre circumstance happens to have A LOOT of pure crystalline vitamin C right now.

I don't believe ascorbic acid is soluble in acetone. SWIM tried once and it didn't work.

NO!

Jorkest, SWIM was thinking that maybe your tek would benefit from the use of anhydrous magnesium sulfate. If it could be added to the basified material in order to aid in the drying process, but the main reason SWIM would add it is to help guarantee the dryness of the acetone used for extraction. The acetone would have to pass through the magnesium sulfate in THP. Then again, it could disrupt the extraction process if it changes the consistency of the material too much.

This also led SWIM to another idea: Drying acetone by pouring it through pure anhydrous magnesium sulfate in THP (much like in a column), rather than pouring it into the can and shaking it. This way, the MgSO4 could be recycled for reuse. I'm sure some already have more professional means of rendering anhydrous acetone, but this would probably an effective and cheap improvised method.

I bring this up in this tek's thread, because it seems to be the only one left that requires acetone for extraction, rather than limonene; meaning the dryness of the acetone used is of the utmost importance.

that sounds like a great idea amor...the THP should work great for that..

Well SWIM actually loves acetone and has a plethora of uses for it (for rendering DMT-fumarate and converting it back to freebase and for cleaning smoking devices, mainly). He would also like to focus on methods that don't require straining (drier methods that can potentially utilize THP).

However, he's seen the work being done on developing a non-toxic tek and certainly feels it to be quite important as an option and should probably be used more commonly than extractions that demand more specialized materials. Even with cacti extraction; though he'd like to use the vinegar method initially, he'd much rather directly precipitate mescaline HCl, partly in order to avoid having to evap water.