its probably not better or worse..but this tek will work for it

It seems like the Torch is more of a gamble. Sometimes its many times stronger than San Pedro, and other times its much weaker. That's what most people seem to say about it. SWIM has more experience with San Pedro and can't really comment much about the Torch potency except that the Torch gives an experience that is more like pure mescaline than San Pedro.

If one had fresh Pedro cuttings to be dried, should one even bother using any of the white flesh in this extraction? Or should one just concentrate on getting the outer green materiel?
I can't seem to find a definitive answer about whether the white flesh contains enough alkaloids to make it worthwhile...
Does anyone have any knowledge of this? Thanks

After reading this tek SWIM noticed that you said that polystyrene could not be used because d-limonene would dissolve it. This has halted SWIM's progress in this tek because he planned on using two liter soda bottles. After doing research into the material composition of the coca-cola bottling process and materials used SWIM found that they use the plastic Polyethylene terephthalate. SWIM was wondering if this plastic is also subject to decomposition or corrosion in d-limonene.

Why do you need new limonene after each pull? Why can't you just use the same batch of limonene since you're gonna pull the alks out with the vinegar anyway?

And just curious but is there any reason why the measurements in this tek couldn't scaled down to 50g cactus instead by just cutting the the measurements in half?

yea you could easily scale it down...no problem there..and i guess the reason for using new d-limo is so that you get less impurities

i just use two 4cup glass pyrex measuring cups... thats all you need

you have the cactus in one and hold a filter over the other one to pour off the limonene

SWIM was going to use the cola bottle because they are readily available, and relatively inexpensive and would make great mixing containers in SWIM's opinion

anything will do..this TEK is very simple that way

i use a spoon to mix but to each his own...

So..i just had a telepathic conversation with SWIM..and he says that hes going to try some Torch with this tek..hes hoping that the cacti hes gonna try it with has SOMETHING in it..he will probably try it after hes done his second go with Pedro..so far so good though!

SWIM also wanted me to tell you about his experiment he tried last night..he took 90mg Pedro extract and 150mg THH..he put it in a gel cap..and it was the most powerful effects hes gotten so far...he hasnt taken his dose up passed 125mg..so he imagines that the dose with the 150mg THH and 90mg pedro extract felt like he had taken somewhere between 160-180mg..but the effects started out rather sedating..he felt like he could just close his eyes and swim in a sea of bliss..but then after a few hours the effects started to get him all amped up..he decided to walk 6 miles home..and made two pit stops at some friends houses..he ran some of the way too...

the only thing though is that he didnt enjoy the effects quite as much as just plain pedro extract..it may have been because he was drinking alcohol too though...but he usually has a few beers when he takes mescaline..it smooths out any excess energy..but he kinda wants to get away from drinking as much..thats why hes been pursuing alternatives to keep himself contented with not drinking so much..

anyway when he finally got home last night..for some reason..unknown to him..he just started crying..it wasnt like a sad crying..it was just tears flowing..and his nose got all plugged up..he feels the mescaline had dislodged some energy build up and this was its way of clearing it out..SWIM wants to do more work with this chemical..he feels its better than MDMA for working with emotional issues..its less hyper than MDMA..and seems way more genuine..when SWIM sees people on MDMA..it looks like their positive energy is created solely by the drug..while mescaline seems to help you find actual things that make you happy to be alive..

SWIM had a great time mixing this mescaline extract with a pharma brew that had thh..harmaline..and dmt fumarate..he took the mescaline about 2-3 hours before the pharma brew..so that as soon as the mescaline started to fully manifest..the dmt kicked in...it was a night of extremely clear thinking..and creativity..many interesting ideas came forward..and it wasnt like on acid where the ideas that you have are slippery and hard to hold onto..

SWIM was also able to 'read' minds..he could consistently guess the numbers that his friends where thinking about...and communication became very multidimensional...meaning..when somebody would speak..SWIM could see behind and through the words and see the thought process that went behind it..everything became extremely obvious..things became so obvious to SWIM that it started to become slightly embarrassing and awkward..he was so in tune with everyone around him that he had to try and shield his mind from probing theirs..it didnt work so well

I think that you misunderstood what SWIM was saying. SWIM said mixing containers, as in something to hold the mixture in while the d-limonene is extracting the mescaline. SWIM does not know what would make you think that the cola bottles would be used as spoons.

That sounds cool! swim can't wait to try cactus extract without the body load!

hahahaha
that is quite a hilarious notion

i have the cactus sitting in a measuring cup and use a spoon to mix
i think you had a misunderstanding...
i am not sure what you would be mixing in your coke bottles...
as you have to mix the water-hydroxide-cactus like a dough and it kinda remains a dough
so using a spoon you can pretty effectively mix the limonene through the dough

i am just trying to save you the hassle of having a blob stuck in the bottom of your mixing container... but do what you want im only trying to help you

note spoon in right (haha not left) mixing cup

Ahh SWIM understands what you mean now, that picture helped immensely. SWIM is going to think of something else to use besides the cola bottles, thanks for the help and picture.

So what kind of effects is the San Pedro extract producing?
How long are SWIY's trips lasting?

no problem im sorry for the misunderstanding im here to help


thentt- iv noticed anywhere from 10-15-20 hours depending on if i redosed or not

Would a D-Limonene product with the FDA - GRAS approval be safe to use in this TEK?
It's MSDS says it contains 97% D-Limonene and the other 97% - 100% is unspecified impurities. Would the unspecified impurities be non-toxic
orangey by-products, or something dangerous?

GRAS is non-toxic. That's food grade, exactly what you want. The other ingredients are from the orange peels and safe. What brand is it?

Thanks 69ron, the D-Limonene in question is from a company downunder called Orica.
Unfortunately pickling seems to be a lost art in my country, I suppose pharmaceutical grade Kalkwasser would do though.