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#1 Posted : 5/19/2013 9:02:05 AM

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I have this question for multiple substances:
EX1: I boiled 50gr chaliponge down to 50ml of little acidified chali-water ( or even without acid, cant recall, was for ayahuasca )

EX2: 500gr of green outer flesh was acidified with citric acid and boiled down to 500ml to make titrating easier. The green flesh was trhown away.

Can i use both substances further like they are 50 and 500ml of to do a good extraction on them? Or should i up the amount of liquid in both jars to make the
dmt-tannate (i can quickly add little hcl to make make dmt-hcl ), basify the liquid on 50ml and pull with naphta , like 1 ml at a time?

For the 500ml that is now 500ml of green acidified soup Pleased, same question, up the liquid, to basify? and pull with limonene and salt it out?

Normally i would be drinking this substances but since i have enough of projectile vomits for a while, i prefer to get the alks, especially since i experienced pharmayahuasca this week.

What a bless instead of the nauseating caapi....
It were 4 caps, every cap 25mg pure harmala and guess around 30mg dmt
I took 4 so i got 100mg harmala and i guess around 120mg dmt and it was a very long process.
Exceeded well the 6-8 hour mark on a +++ ( goddamn waves Pleased i thought it was over, and then again, but it was blissfull and learnfull )
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#2 Posted : 5/19/2013 1:14:55 PM

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I would highly suggest using Kash's A/B Mescaline Extraction Tek with the amount of cactus juice that you have. That is if you want to get all the desired alks out in one pull. See my recent notes and test on his thread for an affirmation if you are doubtful of its effectiveness. His tek calls for 100g powder so you would 5x the recommended amounts accordingly if your flesh was dry.

As far as the Chaliponge goes you are not going to get much yield from only 50g to start with but either way going to 500ml on this would be fine too for whatever tek you use.

I try to work with 500-700ml for all my work because of the 1L jars that I use but I only work with single servings in mind. So with that in mind I would have started with 50g of cactus and 100g of chaliponge.






 
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#3 Posted : 5/20/2013 7:18:11 AM

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50gr chaliponga Smile
0.5gr is sure worth trying for Pleased
thxx for the reply

i dont plan on doing exotic extractions,
just simple a/b
chali: with a defat and then stb
mesc: stb since allready acidified
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#4 Posted : 5/21/2013 7:08:41 AM

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Journeymann wrote:
I would highly suggest using Kash's A/B Mescaline Extraction Tek with the amount of cactus juice that you have. That is if you want to get all the desired alks out in one pull. See my recent notes and test on his thread for an affirmation if you are doubtful of its effectiveness. His tek calls for 100g powder so you would 5x the recommended amounts accordingly if your flesh was dry.

As far as the Chaliponge goes you are not going to get much yield from only 50g to start with but either way going to 500ml on this would be fine too for whatever tek you use.

I try to work with 500-700ml for all my work because of the 1L jars that I use but I only work with single servings in mind. So with that in mind I would have started with 50g of cactus and 100g of chaliponge.


how u mean single servings?
do u use 100gr chali in 1 time? ( oh boy, cant imagine doing that =)
I use it as admixture and my ayahuasca is allready bloodstrong,
300gr caapi + 150 dmt ( and i loose myself completely, also my body, so i dont need the chali to strenghten it up. Its allready a hell of a booom booom Smile
and man Smile .3gr caapi hit you like a horseshoe in the face Pleased
good vibes to all ^^
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#5 Posted : 5/22/2013 3:43:27 PM

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And I never really answered the question in the title of your post.

I dont think that reducing liquids reduces yields except that if you spill a drop it is more concentrated with the less liquid that you have. So more liquid is better when doing transfers from my understanding.

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#6 Posted : 5/22/2013 4:29:35 PM

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how u mean single servings?

Someone reading the fact that you are using 500g of mesc.containing cactus with a potential yield of 15g as possibly being more than what you need personally.

That could be misconstrued by 'others' as commercial production which is a highly watched subject found here.

Thats all I was saying V. no personal judgement but it was my way of saying be careful whatchya say and how ya say it. Thumbs up

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#7 Posted : 5/23/2013 7:40:25 AM

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Journeymann wrote:
how u mean single servings?

Someone reading the fact that you are using 500g of mesc.containing cactus with a potential yield of 15g as possibly being more than what you need personally.

That could be misconstrued by 'others' as commercial production which is a highly watched subject found here.

Thats all I was saying V. no personal judgement but it was my way of saying be careful whatchya say and how ya say it. Thumbs up

Peace

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I see this place as a University and I am here to learn and understand what is happening during the extraction processes and promote safety in use. I never was the lets get f'd up and blow out my pipes kinda person. Cool


no i never will use 500gr green flesh Pleased
titration aftwerwards Pleased heheh
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#8 Posted : 5/23/2013 7:43:53 AM

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venom wrote:
Journeymann wrote:
how u mean single servings?

Someone reading the fact that you are using 500g of mesc.containing cactus with a potential yield of 15g as possibly being more than what you need personally.

That could be misconstrued by 'others' as commercial production which is a highly watched subject found here.

Thats all I was saying V. no personal judgement but it was my way of saying be careful whatchya say and how ya say it. Thumbs up

Peace

edit
I see this place as a University and I am here to learn and understand what is happening during the extraction processes and promote safety in use. I never was the lets get f'd up and blow out my pipes kinda person. Cool


no i never will use 500gr green flesh Pleased
titration aftwerwards Pleased heheh

oh and i know this cactus only contains max 0.5% . 99.9% sure of that Pleased maybe even less
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#9 Posted : 9/8/2013 10:07:43 AM

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Journeymann wrote:
how u mean single servings?

Someone reading the fact that you are using 500g of mesc.containing cactus with a potential yield of 15g as possibly being more than what you need personally.

That could be misconstrued by 'others' as commercial production which is a highly watched subject found here.



I don't understand this?
When eating fresh cactus a one or two foot piece is used.
I have no personal experience, this what i read.
This must be about 500g.
And with fresh Lophophora, about 100-200 gram fresh green material is used.
This must be personal amounts, not commercial production.
Or have got all this wrong?
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