I just finished a rue extraction and wanted to take some harmine along with some dmt. What is a good starting dose for a mild effect? of harmine and dmt?

Thanks

In my experience only 200mg is needed of rue extract for MAOI, but he usually used 300mg to be safe.

I suppose the original question was on harmine, not on full spectrum Rue extract. Would anyone suggest an effective oral dose of pure harmine for Pharma?

Any experience in this area?

Thank you.

It can vary between person to person so much that its really hard to say. I'd start with 150-200mg and then depending on how you feel go from there. You can always take more

I have full spectrum harmalas and separated harmine from rue, does anyone think 150mg of each would be enough?

I would start lower on the dmt personally...some need 150mg dmt but many also need way less. Some like me would never need more than 50mg, and 150mg would just be way too much

also for the harmine- i forgot to mention that its weaker than harmaline, so you might want to even take closer to 200mg of it

pharmahuasca can really take some trial and error.. so just be patient, keep tinkering, and you'll find the amounts you need

I meant 150mg of harmine and 150mg of full spectrum rue extract.

As far as the dmt likely somewhere between 60-80mg.

Do you think 150 of each would work?

oh no i wouldn't take 300mg harmalas right off the bat along with dmt..maybe on its own, sure..but with dmt somewhere around 200mg is a better starting point IMO. I guess it depends what your aiming for really.

Thanks I'll give It a whirl and share my results. It will also be interesting to see how much Dmt I'll need because of my medical need for clonazepam. Thanks....

I would go with the harmine and leave the full spectrum rue extract for a next time. Harmine seems to generally give less body load and is a little more gentle in that aspect, at least in my experience.

Agreed with UC that you should not go above 200mg harmine for a first try, if you want it to be mild.

I'm the type that needs 250+ mg harmine and 150+ mg DMT for a moderately strong experience, but I'd suggest 150mg harmine and 30-50mg DMT for a first, and take a little booster of each after 90 minutes if you're not where you want to be.

Thanks Vodsel!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck on your travels