I currently have a gram of Salvia divinorum and was wondering what the best way to go about smoking it would be. This is my first time with the substance. I've had experience with DMT, LSD and psilocybin in the past, but from what others have told me (and since it effects dopamine receptors as oppose to seratonin), I'm anticipating the unknown eagerly. I only have a gram, and I'm a bit limited, as I only have a few bowls of relatively small size. What are your suggestions? Primarily wondering about dose for 30x, preparation, and a bit of what I could be expecting. Thanks

from what I have read 30x is extremely powerful and is far stronger than the recommended dose of salvorin A..you will need to weigh your dose very carefully or as has been suggested maybe try a weaker extract...a strong dose of salvorin A apparently is 2-3mg... a 30x extract would contain around 70-75mg of salvorin A... this is WAY too much and would explain why so many people freak out on these stronger extracts. i'd suggest you read through this thread

The best way to approach Salvia is to back away slowly and then turn away forever. But no really if your interested I'd say start low 1 hit hold it as long as you can like DMT and go from there.

hmmm..my point was that 30x is much more than 1 "hit" though (it is a lot of hits) so more reading should be done about salvorin A and dosing. Gibrans thread goes over this.. its not as simple as packing a bowl of 30x and that being 1 hit.. I do not have experience with Salvia personally yet, though based on what I've read I think caution should be taken with these "x extracts"

Personally, I would take that gram and flush it straight down the toilet and be grateful that I did so...
I have never read a positive report of the stuff.
The vids that are out there show people having a frightened, horrible time.

I am sure that there are a few people that can align with this plant and enjoy its effects.

To me, it sounds like the stuff of nightmares and there is nothing on this earth that would make me take it @ 1x ... let alone 30x.

I really hope you read everything and arm yourself with knowledge before you take that plunge.

Good luck.

Well, if you’ve never read a positive salvia report, then you haven’t been reading much here at the Nexus.

I’ve said repeatedly that I’ve never had a negative experience with salvia. That said, salvia rarely produces any sort of euphoria, so for people expecting that, salvia is not a good choice.


To the OP:

My advice would be to start slow. Early on, there is a reverse tolerance – a dose that has no effect one session may have a moderate effect the next session and a strong effect by the 3rd or 4th time. No need to rush into things when salvia is concerned. Develop a relationship with it. This takes time.

Legitimate 30X is strong stuff – a good dose to start with would be about 7mg. A full-blown breakthrough after some reverse tolerance has developed can be had with 14mg. 20mg would give a very “forceful” experience – unpleasant for many.

Some people find the physical sensations that accompany the early phase of a salvia experience to be uncomfortable – you may feel “pins and needles” over your whole body, or you might feel like your body is being flattened, or stretched, or rolled, or twisted in very unusual ways. If you find these sensations fascinating as I do, you’re off to a good start. If not, it’s a lousy way to start an experience.

A strong dose of salvia (14mg or more of 30X) may likely give you total ego loss – you will have no memory of who you are, likely no memory of having been a human being, and certainly no memory of having taken salvia. It’s when in this state that your “core self” is in control. If your core is tranquil, you’ll have a good experience. If your core is fearful, you’ll likely be terrified.

Salvia experiences are easy to describe, yet difficult to “decode”. The messages (when and if there are messages) are rarely plain and simple. As far as I can tell, there are oftentimes no messages at all. If you’re looking for a truly bizarre and potentially frightening experience, then salvia is for you.

Having said all of that, I’ll try to give you an idea of what a salvia experience is for me by free-associating words and phrases that come to mind when thinking about it:

Homecoming, family, impish children singing, a circus, physical transformation, physical blossoming, loss of self, 1950’s suburbia, green grass, blue skies, turning into a tent, all of reality becoming a 2-dimensional sheet, layers of reality, seeing neighboring realities that are just a millimeter away from ours, truths revealed and then quickly hidden, a carnival, paranoia – realizing everyone else “knows”, physically turning inside-out, a whole world made of tiles or blocks, emotional flatness, feeling you could stay “there” if you made the choice, true home, disappointment with this “plain” reality on return, multi-dimensional…

Salvinorin A is a powerful and highly selective kappa opioid receptor agonist. As far as I know, it doesn’t have any affinity for dopamine receptors.

Thank you for noticing this gibran2.

AnAngelicProcess, do you have any credible sources for your claim about the dopamine receptors? It would be interesting to know if this is true or false.


Kind regards,

The Traveler

I'm not sure how relevant this is but apparently Dopamine D2high receptors are stimulated by salvinorin a http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19391150

Salvinorin A does have affinity for the D2 receptor, and is in fact more potent as a D2 partial agonist than as a kappa agonist. But gibran2 is correct in a way, because it's the kappa agonism that mediates its most significant effects. As of yet, it is unknown what role D2 agonism plays in producing its subjective effects.

From PubMed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19391150

Edit: Haha, DeMenTed beat me to it!

Thank you all for your advice. My experience was pretty disappointing. I had the feeling of short term memory loss for about 2 hours and that was about it. Sounds seemed to be slightly enhanced, but it wasn't anything more. Hardly a beneficial effect. And this was after a few bowls of the stuff. As I'm completely new to it, I'm not entirely sure what to think right now. I guess I won't be seeking it out again any time soon, but I'm questioning whether what I had was actually 30x. Once again, thanks for all of your helpful comments.

Literally a sprinkle is all you should need like literally when I say 1 hit I mean 1 hit lol, I've had good experiences on salvia but then one day I had a bad trip and every time since I've tied it I have the same or similar trip.

There is a video of Terence Mckenna, he recommends to quid it or chew on the actual plant leaves. The effect is spose to be more forgiving.

I did 2 hits of 30x and it was SO intense and so fast that I couldn't come away with much.
Apparently the Spirit of Salvia, dosen't like it when you smoke her.

I always say that I can't explain the Salvia experience in words. These words...they explain it all. I hope you don't mind gibran, I'm making this my signature

Well done. Really, well done. You said it all.


This is exactly how my first several attempts went with Salvia. I would get barely any effect, and I would go and buy a stronger extract. Then I took WAY too much of a very strong extract, and there was the breakthrough experience.

It's something that takes patience and perseverance. You have to teach yourself how to trip on the stuff. That's the best way I can describe it. Some people do trip on their first try, others have to sensitize themselves to it.

The persistence pays off. Salvia experiences have taught me more about myself, my reality, the universe, everything....than anything else in my life to date. That said, not everyone is suited to these experiences. DMT seems to be a bit more "universal" in that it appeals to a much larger audience. And you can visit some of the same places with DMT as you can with Salvia.

What an honor!