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#1 Posted : 5/4/2013 6:05:43 AM

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Greetings fellow nexian's, I recently got very tired of having to buy toothpaste at the store because they usually only have popular brands like Colgate and Crest and if they do have an organic or natural based toothpaste, it us usually very expensive. So i researched how to make my own toothpaste. Some of you may already be onto this method, but for those who haven't heard of this and want to make they're own organic toothpaste look no further.

So the recipe only requires 1 ingredient. Coconut oil.

yep thats it its that easy, go out to the store and buy a fatty jar of coco oil . Obviously you can go further from there and add other oils or fresh herbs like peppermint into the jar to add flavor to the coconut taste, but mind you i've been using a batch of just oil and the taste is pleasant. The mixture doesn't need to be refrigerated and because coconut oil is antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal, it'll help keep your toothbrush clean and sanitary too.

Your mixture will change consistency based on temperature so one day it may be waxy and then watery another day.(viscosity changes).

I have been using this method of making toothpaste for a month now and let me tell you i am feeling the benefits! Not only is it Much cheaper than buying crappy toothpaste from a store, its so much healthier. My gums and teeth feel so much stronger and smoother.

By making your own toothpaste you are reducing your bodys intake of Sodium Flouride (we all here hate that one, killer of pineal!), Chlorine, Aspertame, Saccharin, Titanium dioxide, Parrafin and loads of other things that are not meant to be in human body!

And wait, just when you thought you'd expirienced all of the awesomeness of the mighty coco oil!
here is a list of other uses for this extremely useful oil.

1. you can use it as a butter or oil substitute in cooking. it heats quicker and is more stable at high temps than any other oil ive used (and i cook a lot!). Also It stays fresh much longer than vegetable oil and will not go rancid for quite some time.

2. Lotion or massage oil. Thats right you can even grab a fat dab on your fingers and rub it all over yourself! It feels so silky smooth and has an immediate relaxing effect and absorbs into the skin nicely and does not leave an oily feel afterwards. It really is perfect for massages.

3.Dandruff Remedy and Hair Conditioner. Coconut oil can effectively get rid of dandruff when rubbed into the scalp a couple times a week. It does make hair oily, of course, but I recommend massaging into the scalp before bed and leaving in overnight before rinsing out in the morning. It also helps strengthen hair and add shine.

4.For Shaving: Using coconut oil in the shower as a shaving soap gives a smooth shave with no irritation (speaking from a woman’s perspective here, don’t know about how it would work for guys). I usually rub on before getting in the shower and then shave in the shower. It doesn’t wash off and moisturizes legs while getting them silky!

BUT STILL!

As if all the above uses weren’t enough, studies have linked coconut oil to the following health benefits:

High lauric acid content can help lower cholesterol and blood pressure. It doesn’t increase LDL and helps keep arteries flexible and prevent atherosclerosis

Studies show that coconut oil may help increase thyroid health because of its unique combination of nourishing properties and the fact that it travels directly to the liver without the need for hormones or enzymes in digestion.

Coconut oil can help boost metabolism.
Since it travels directly to the liver, it is used for energy and not stored as fat. It also helps a feeling of satiety and can assist in weight loss.

Can increase bone strength by allowing better absorption of calcium, vitamin D and other minerals.

It’s antifungal properties have been shown to help reduce candida and yeast in the body and fight yeast infections.

Can help fight infection and flu due to its antibacterial, antiviral and antimicrobial properties.

There you have it folks, if your like me and am adamant about making as much of your own stuff as possible and increasing health benefits in the process - Go Out And Make Your Own Toothpaste.


here are some links to some sites advocating the benefits of coconut oil and homemade toothpaste.



http://wellnessmama.com/...benefits-of-coconut-oil/

http://www.naturalnews.c...toothpaste_fluoride.html




 

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#2 Posted : 5/4/2013 6:27:45 AM

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it is actaully not a good idea to use baking soda for your tooth paste. I talked about this with a dentist once and they warned me about people doing that. It is abrasive and so wears down your tooth enamel over time, which is not what you want. I was told making a water infused with certain essential oils and salt is the best way to go.

Here is a good video on oral health care at home..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xTbR8d57Kc
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#3 Posted : 5/4/2013 6:39:28 AM

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remember those dentists are the same people who make money off convincing kids parents that they're kids need braces , and dentists advocate the use of fluoride and really crap toothpaste brands. Dentists will tell you anything just like doctors to get your money.

also Im sure if your getting proper minerals and calcium enamel would not be much of a problem. unless your really Grinding into your teeth when you brush them
 
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#4 Posted : 5/4/2013 6:43:59 AM

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I'm gonna research this and may try it, but Id have to agree with Jamie not only is it a abrasive but also still a basic material so if your mixing 1:1 ration Id still say its probably not the best idea to eat it either, maybe its safer than most name brand pastes but still eating it couldn't do to many good things for your stomach, I'd say maybe do 1 Parts baking soda to 4 or 5 parts oil and start from there. maybe go as high as 2:5 or something.
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#5 Posted : 5/4/2013 7:34:06 AM

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"remember those dentists are the same people who make money off convincing kids parents that they're kids need braces"

You are assuming that I am referring to one of those dentists.

You can do w/e you like. I dont see the point though in rubbing abrasive materials against your tooth enamel every day to clean your teeth when simply brushing with essential oils mixed into salt water is more than effective.

BTW..many kids DO need braces these days, or teeth pulled becasue their jaws are basically deformed from malnutrition and there is not enough room for their teeth to grow properly. Weston Price observed this way back in all cultures who lived on the "foods of commerce", or westernized diets. He spent the rest of his life studying the phenomenon of weaker bone structure and deformed jaws etc in all indigenous cultures he came across who switched from their traditional indigenous diets to western diets and he concluded that people living on westernized diets suffer epigenetic damage and there is a lot of evidence to back that up. You dont see this problem of overcrowded jaws with horribly crooked teeth and wisdom teeth that impact etc in populations that live on their traditional indigenous diets, and simly feeding your kids a proper diet when young doesnt fix it. It takes about 3 generations for that kind of deformity to be reversed.

It is not realistic to just act as if all the denstists simply pretend that there is a problem so they can make more money. I dont trust all dentists either to be honest, becasue I do think that there are ones out there that try to take advantage of people..but that does not mean that all these kids out there with braces do not represent a real problem..it is just that noone wants to actaully address the problem at it's root.
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#6 Posted : 5/4/2013 7:52:56 AM

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jamie wrote:
"remember those dentists are the same people who make money off convincing kids parents that they're kids need braces"

You are assuming that I am referring to one of those dentists.

You can do w/e you like. I dont see the point though in rubbing abrasive materials against your tooth enamel every day to clean your teeth when simply brushing with essential oils mixed into salt water is more than effective.

BTW..many kids DO need braces these days, or teeth pulled becasue their jaws are basically deformed from malnutrition and there is not enough room for their teeth to grow properly. Weston Price observed this way back in all cultures who lived on the "foods of commerce", or westernized diets. He spent the rest of his life studying the phenomenon of weaker bone structure and deformed jaws etc in all indigenous cultures he came across who switched from their traditional indigenous diets to western diets and he concluded that people living on westernized diets suffer epigenetic damage and there is a lot of evidence to back that up. You dont see this problem of overcrowded jaws with horribly crooked teeth and wisdom teeth that impact etc in populations that live on their traditional indigenous diets.

It is not realistic to just act as if all the denstists simply pretend that there is a problem so they can make more money. I dont trust all dentists either to be honest, becasue I do think that there are ones out there that try to take advantage of people..but that does not mean that all these kids out there with braces do not represent a real problem..it is just that noone wants to actaully adress the problem at it's root.


Agreed, I did have a bad dentist as a child who wound up doing more work on my mouth than my mother authorized, and then didn't tell us our insurance wasn't valid until after all the work was done. So that made me not trust dentists in my area for along time.
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#7 Posted : 5/4/2013 9:18:37 AM

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well if your really worried about the abrasiveness of sodium bicarb i'd take it out. The oil itself will still make a strong healthy toothpaste.

james, I did assume you were reffering to "one of those dentists" and not a private practice dentist or friend. But Theres no denying that its a common practice for dentist's to try and convince parents to give kids braces by either making some absurd claim that there teeth wont be healthy or that they will be made fun of for not conforming to societys standards for straight teeth.

I myself have never been rich enough or lucky enough to have a private doctor or even a physician and have always had to go to the crappiest facilities in the area cuz its all my insurance could cover. Although now I'm grown up i don't go to the dentist.

I remember when i was 12 sitting in the dentist room while the schmuck tried to convince my parents that I would have problems chewing and i would be made fun of by other kids for not having straight teeth. Let me tell you i was reluctant as hell not to get braces and i firmly told my parents not to put them on my teeth and not to listen to the dentist. Anyway as you would guess my parents listened to that scumbags false claims and they put those freaking metal things on my teeth.

A month or 2 after I ripped them off by myself in my garage after school haha. I was pretty drunk and it didn't hurt near as much as i thought it would. I went up and showed it to my parents and they were as angry as they'd ever been.
thousands of dollars for nothing. "dam right" i said. Once again i told them multiple times not to let that dentist creep put that metal on my teeth.

8 Years later my teeth are strong healthy, full of enamel and white. They aren't straight but i don't give a fuck, haha.
last time I went to the dentist(which will be the last time) he said my teeth were perfectly healthy.

Braces are as much a scam as makeup and plastic surgery etc. its convincing you that you need something to fit societys standard of appeal. Im not denying that theres some kids who really need braces/headbraces but most of the kids are just being exploited and having annoying unnecessary metal things put on their mouth for no good reason.


 
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#8 Posted : 5/4/2013 9:48:37 AM

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Jamie, I'd be interested to know what oils you use with the salt water.

For a while I had switched to the cleanest toothpastes I could find at the health food store but it's not so clean really. A while back I saw a meme on facebook about using coconut oil and baking soda, I had been using baking soda and sea salt previously but I was worried about the abrasiveness so I only used it to supplement the health food store stuff, so after seeing the meme I made a paste of baking soda, sea salt, and coconut oil and it seemed a good alternative.

As I understand it the coconut oil basically takes care of the problem of the baking soda and salt being so abrasive, but if the saltwater/essential oil method is a better choice I'd love to learn more about it.

I've also been using hydrogen peroxide mixed 50/50 with water as mouthwash after learning it was good safe alternative. I had used a concentrated mint tea but I think the h202 is a little more effective for oral health, now that I type this up I think I'll try mixing the h202 50/50 with a strong mint tea and see how that works out.

This is an area I've been interested in for a while and I'd love any more input others have on natural bodycare solutions Thumbs up
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#9 Posted : 5/4/2013 10:11:10 AM

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Slight de-rail...

I use this stuff. (Dabur Red)
I got it in India and it is by far the most amazing tooth powder I have ever used, for whitening, cleaning and freshening.
It's an Ayurvedic product and knocks spots off any paste. If you can find it it's worth it.

Ingredients:
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#10 Posted : 5/4/2013 10:38:48 AM

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Thank you for adding that cyb that looks like a very neat product and its ingredients are a-ok.

But after doing some more research i'm going to have to strongly disagree about baking soda being worse for your teeth. From what I've been reading, the only evidence for baking soda wearing down enamel is for people who use baking soda with water only, and for at least 3 times a day with a thick bristle brush. There aren't any studies that can prove that using baking soda as toothpaste wears down your enamel, thats just speculation due to the fact that Baking soda has some abrasive qualities.

Baking soda is only mildy abrasive and If used in combination with coconut oil which is super slick and smooth, with a soft thistle brush once or twice a day should not cause any enamel decay.

I think its the combination between the two that enables the baking soda to clean efficiently while not wearing away the enamel because the coconut oil is so freaking smooth.
Brush your gums real well and take it lightly when your brushing your chompers and I think this will work wonders for you.

let me add again though that the coconut oil works fine on it's own as toothpaste.
 
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#11 Posted : 5/4/2013 12:45:08 PM

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For UK peeps (and apologies if this is a secondary derailment).. Holland & Barrett do a toothpaste under the brand name "Kingfisher" that is fluoride free, alas it still contains SLS.

However, the Dabur brand as mentioned by Cyb is meant to be amazing (I had heard about it in the past and forgot the name so MANY thanks).. It is also available in the UK

http://www.spicesofindia.co.uk/acatalog/Dabur.html

Scroll down the page and be amazed.. IT COSTS LESS THAN A POUND!!! Thumbs up

They have some other nice products too.
 
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I've been brushing my teeth with baking soda for about 7 months now and I have not seen or felt and wearing or abrasion on my teeth yet. I dont know if I would even be able to BUT I do notice my teeth are cleaner and my mouth feels way fresher everyday. Its even removed the nasty tar stains from the back of my teeth. I cant use regular toothpaste anymore even the all natural stuff, its way to strong. BTW baking soda has soooooooooooooooooooooooooo many uses, you can also wash your hair with it, clean stains on the rug with it use it as anti persistent ect ect ect google it.

BAKING SODA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!
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#13 Posted : 5/4/2013 5:39:45 PM

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if you guys really want to get into oral health care one good thing you can do is swish green juice around in your mouth for a few minutes every few days or something..wheat grass juice works good but pretty much any concentrated green juices are good. Just a few minutes is long enough for your teeth and gums to get a good dose of minerals.
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Interesting info! Thanks for sharing. I've been washing my hair with baking soda for the past 4 or 5 months and I love it. I like the idea of being free of fabric-made health-care or cosmetic items, so making my own tooth-paste seems like a good idea. I'll have to research a bit into this.
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#16 Posted : 5/4/2013 7:17:17 PM
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I think that brushing with just water should be good enough. People used nothing more than toothpicks for thousands of years before the first toothbrushes, though they also ate less sugar than we do.

To kill bacteria, you could use an antibiotic plant substance. There is a good list of antibiotic foods here.
Pepper, citrus, mint, etc.
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I think that brushing with just water should be good enough. People used nothing more than toothpicks for thousands of years before the first toothbrushes, though they also ate less sugar than we do.

To kill bacteria, you could use an antibiotic plant substance. There is a good list of antibiotic foods here.
Pepper, citrus, mint, etc.


My Dentist said I shouldnt use toothpicks as they make things worse, I need to as I have lots of gaps in my teeth.

Great thread thanks, going to try the coconut oil.
 
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#18 Posted : 5/5/2013 11:11:30 AM

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I hardly ever brush my teeth these days, but I don't eat processed foods, so tooth decay isn't really an issue.

If I do get the urge to brush my teeth I use Manuka honey. It's not abrasive and tastes good too.

From http://ezinearticles.com...um-Issues&id=1521451
Quote:
Research has shown that honey contains an enzyme that produces hydrogen peroxide which is believed to be the key reason for the antimicrobial activity of honey. Honey not only curbs dental plaque bacteria growth but also reduces the amount of acid produced, which stops the bacteria from producing dextran, a component of dental plaque that adheres stubbornly to the surface of the teeth.



From http://articles.mercola....ylitol-in-mouthwash.aspx
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Researchers from India recently explored a number of strategies for reducing dental plaque:

Manuka honey, which has potent antibacterial properties
Chlorhexidine gluconate mouthwash, a chemical mouthwash often used to treat gingivitis
Chewing gum with xylitol, a sugar alcohol that has been found to help fight tooth decay

Sixty healthy subjects first received a professional prophylaxis with the purpose of making their teeth 100 percent plaque-free. They were then divided randomly into three groups, and given Manuka honey, chlorhexidine gluconate mouthwash, or xylitol chewing gum. After 72 hours, their plaque levels were examined and researchers found:

"Both Manuka honey and chlorhexidine mouthwash reduced plaque formation significantly, better than the xylitol chewing gum."

So Manuka honey worked just as well as chemical mouthwash -- and better than xylitol -- in reducing plaque levels, most likely because of its potent antibacterial qualities.





 
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I use toms natural, flouride free toothpaste but I'm going to try this for sure. Thanks for the idea!
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#20 Posted : 5/6/2013 4:58:43 AM

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Np, thanks . Toms from maine is a great alternative toothpaste brand, but like everything its much cheaper if you make your own.
 
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