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DeDao
#1 Posted : 4/26/2013 1:58:58 AM

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When I speak, I want you to understand me.
I don't want you to only intellectually know what I mean but for you to feel what I mean.
I don't want word-filled forms to corrupt and confuse the reality of my message.
I don't want your mind to categorize or label the forms that my mouth create.
I want you to hear me.

But when I say that I want you to hear me, how do I know you know what I mean.
You may nod in a way that will confirm from your mind that you understand.
But will I understand that body language?
Will your message be transformed and changed as it is synthesized into vibrational waves that are sent through the atomic make up of the air that breach the walls of my mind and understanding of this world?

I am not sure if you know what I mean.
But I can be confirmed on the fact that you hear me.
I want you to understand me.
Do you?




I hope you enjoy this quickly written message.

I am not sure if it comes out clearly or not but I tried.
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 

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#2 Posted : 4/26/2013 2:00:52 AM

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Of course not, that is why things are interesting Smile
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DeDao
#3 Posted : 4/26/2013 2:01:18 AM

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What?
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
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#4 Posted : 4/26/2013 2:33:18 AM

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communication is fun! even misunderstandings. Usually there is a moment where you can tell that your message got through, despite dificulties to express yourself or missing the right words or whatever. Sometimes that moment never comes.

or maybe I don't get it...
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DeDao
#5 Posted : 4/26/2013 3:01:57 AM

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Enoon, I have no clue what you are talking about..

Sometimes I worry about that Enoon character.. Pleased
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
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#6 Posted : 4/26/2013 4:13:11 AM

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DeDao wrote:


I am not sure if you know what I mean.
But I can be confirmed on the fact that you hear me.
I want you to understand me.
Do you?



*nods
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#7 Posted : 4/26/2013 11:44:51 AM

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I think I don´t understand anyone in this thread Crying or very sad
 
Enoon
#8 Posted : 4/26/2013 12:26:11 PM

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huh?
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#9 Posted : 4/26/2013 1:34:05 PM

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Hey, Enoon, you were in a dream of mine last night; what up with that?

Oh, let's make this relevant to the thread . . . . ummmm . . . . uuuuuhhh . . . I don't get it.
Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.
---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
 
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#10 Posted : 4/26/2013 1:45:08 PM

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oh that was you!?

(I still don't understand)
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#11 Posted : 4/26/2013 1:57:36 PM

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Oh Enoon, are you up to your old "astral travelling into peoples spaces" again hahaha...

That Steve Irwin disguise just don't cut it Laughing

Back on topic (kinda).. I feel that body language makes up a huge portion of our usual methods of communication, often creating inflections and adding assertions to the verbal portion of a conversation.

This latest method of mass communication (social networking etc) offers many classic examples of how people can often take the wrong impression of what is said because they are only using one element to attach to (vocal) when our subconscious is traditionally used to dealing with a fuller picture (so to speak).

Personally, I think social networking is a Trojan horse. If we do not watch where we are collectively going, next thing we know "Comacho" will be president and "Mike Judge" will be seen as a prophet.

Ok, I guess that was barely even on topic..

The one thing that does strike me from reading the original post is this: "Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory". Wink
 
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#12 Posted : 4/26/2013 2:23:23 PM

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Love
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
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#13 Posted : 4/26/2013 2:56:27 PM

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I'm so confused now...
but I will try and dream of Noonie...
Wink
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#14 Posted : 4/26/2013 3:33:03 PM

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*opens mouth, thinks for a second, closes it*

^
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#15 Posted : 4/26/2013 3:45:43 PM

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Is this what you were getting at?
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<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
 
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#16 Posted : 4/26/2013 3:57:02 PM

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#17 Posted : 4/26/2013 4:10:28 PM

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Amazing pic, universecannon. Gave me the giggles Smile

I have to admit, I am not too sure what this thread is about... Language and communication? That's all I got.
 
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#18 Posted : 4/26/2013 4:41:00 PM

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Fear, belief, love phenomena that determined the course of our lives. These forces begin long before we are born and continue after we perish. We cross and recross our old paths like figure skaters; our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.
---David Mitchell, Cloud Atlas
 
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#19 Posted : 4/26/2013 4:58:25 PM

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This thread can be seen as a metaphor for how messy, imprecise and at times questionable the whole communication game can be.

Those moments when true mutual recognition occurs: rare, golden.
 
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#20 Posted : 4/26/2013 5:04:24 PM

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universecannon wrote:
Is this what you were getting at?

This sums this post up quite nicely.
Understand: Nature knows no EVIL, Nature knows no GOOD, people know these things, because we perceive these things, with the gift of senses given to us at birth. A good or bad experience is simply a bridge to a another existential time frame, so always live in the moment and make every one a positive moment!

Any and all posts or interactions are to be held as my fictional writings/short stories or dreams. I may even have some delirium setting in, I've never been tested for it. The only exception to this is the statement about nature above, I feel this is a fact!
 
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