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lucky1111
#1 Posted : 4/12/2013 5:43:21 AM
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PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set: I believe I was calm
(physical condition) Set: 5'6" 155lbs
Setting (location): Home
time of day: (12 or 24 hour system, daylight? starlight? overcast?) late afternoon
recent drug use: (list also any kind of medication) medical marijuana
last meal: (Time and type) unknown

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Gender: Male
body weight: 155
known sensitivities: unknown
history of use:

Unexperienced, minor past use

BIOASSAY
Substance(s): NN-DMT, 5FPB22
Dose(s): unknown, several grams
Method of administration: vaporized


EFFECTS
Administration time: I do not remember
Duration: Several days
First effects: Unable to focus, coming to epiphanies about love, friendship, and religion/God, cures for disease
Peak: 4 days
Come down: able to focus on more than colors and numbers, noticing movement all around me
Baseline: I am unaware if I have returned to baseline

Intensity (overall): 4

Evaluation / notes: Added acetone to the extraction with the naptha, assuming the more acidic nonpolar solvent would allow a more pure extraction

OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: 2
Unplesantness: 4
Visual Intensity: (0-4)
. focus on a single color


AFTER-EFFECTS
Hangover: 1; brighter colors, sleeplessnes; 5 days
Afterglow: 3 ; belief that others could hear my thoughts ; it still has not stopped

REPORT
The use was about a month and a half ago.

I was doing a lot of testing of a research chemical, and also attempting to learn the extraction process from acacia confusa.

After reviewing several times the extraction, I began my own. What came out was an extremely small amount of white crystal which I scraped from the drying dish. This I vaporized in a pipe with a propane torch.

Imediately I began to lose focus. I have been unable to regain focus, and I feel as if as others are talking, I will only hear certain things they are saying.

As soon as I hear something, I go off into what I can best describe as a day dream about other things, even as they continue talking. I will act as if I am responding to something they are saying, but instead I am also having another conversation in my head and answering more of my own questions than I am actually listening to the people I am conversing with.

When there is silence, or when I am in public, I begin attempting to cheer people up with my thoughts simply by having thoughts like "are you having a nice day?"

I am losing and coming back into reality what seems like every few minutes, and only when I am able to focus on something am I finally able to fix it and silence the "broadcast of thoughts" for at least until I hear something that sends me off into another day dream.

Any questions that anyone has I am happy to answer. I would like assistance in making this more controllable, go away, or otherwise keep myself focused so thoughts that I do not desire to get out there do not get out there, literally anything is appreciated almost beyond belief.

I am simply asking for some form of assistance as I apparently did something wrong to my brain, and I am unable to locate the information myself to fix it. I am trying vitamins, slowly trying to increase my excersize. Anything to help metabolize the chemicals inside me and level out whatever is currently unbalanced and possibly allowing this to happen.

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Global
#2 Posted : 4/12/2013 12:34:47 PM

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lucky1111 wrote:


BIOASSAY
Substance(s): NN-DMT, 5FPB22
Dose(s): unknown, several grams
Method of administration: vaporized


What is 5FPB22, and did you mean you took several grams of DMT?
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lucky1111
#3 Posted : 4/12/2013 12:49:10 PM
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Global wrote:
lucky1111 wrote:


BIOASSAY
Substance(s): NN-DMT, 5FPB22
Dose(s): unknown, several grams
Method of administration: vaporized


What is 5FPB22, and did you mean you took several grams of DMT?


5F-PB22 is a Research Chemical which I myself was using at the point of NN-DMT ingestion. I was not recording the amount used. I only took one unmeasured dose of DMT which was the full amount that I had received from the extraction. It was a miniscule amount in my unprofessional opinion, and barely fit on the edge of a razor blade.
 
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#4 Posted : 4/12/2013 5:11:14 PM

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Ok. So what I see happening here is you are mixing two chemicals (well a chem and DMT). You had a trip with visuals and ever since you have a pattern of running thoughts.

So I will add my thoughts. I will chime what others say in here. Be very careful of what you mix with DMT. Some drugs or food can have adverse reactions and cause unwanted side effects. So what I see here is an unwanted side effect due to the mixture of another chemical and DMT.

As for the thoughts running off and causing you to lose consintration. Try to focus on your subject's words more. We all float off in lala land sometimes, begin to think things about other things which don't relate to the subject at hand.

There was something I heard about thought in one's mind. That in meditation you must clear your mind, that a fully cleared mind, without thoughts can achieve higher spiritual being. This is what can lead to the spirit world (where DMT takes you). Another thought is that while someone is talking, it is rude or bad to think of other thoughts, even selfish.

Just food for thought! Razz
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#5 Posted : 4/12/2013 6:49:48 PM

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Reminds me a bit of my first Salvia Divinorum trip.
-Lucid dream kind of state
-Euphoria
-Telepathic communication
-Entity contact

...but no strong visuals at all (which I DO get on DMT).
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#6 Posted : 4/12/2013 8:27:11 PM

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i offer this as serious advice, discontinue use of any research chemical. Dmt in responsible doses is safe to use... but take a break from drugs until you are feeling normal, and if it continues to bother you visit a professional.

i feel bad for you and hope all the best for you
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#7 Posted : 4/12/2013 9:19:00 PM

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I'm not sure why you are taking a research chemical. But adding DMT to the mix sounds like a bad idea. However, it is too late to go back now. I think you really need to take a good long break from any self medication. Try to limit any inner dialogue. Exercise is a great idea, you should really keep that up. Maybe make healthy eating and exercise, along with meditation, and yoga, your main focus for a while, until you start to feel yourself again. This world we live in day after day can be overwhelming at times. It is good practice to feel solid in this world, before attempting to journey into another. I hope you find peace, hang in there. Smile
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#8 Posted : 4/12/2013 9:25:13 PM

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Are you still taking that RC? You haven't gone into much detail about how much you've used, how often, whether you were strongly under its effects when you vaped the DMT, etc. Since your symptoms are not common at all for a regular DMT user, I think there's a high likelihood that it's mostly related to that RC, possibly catalyzed by a strong DMT trip.

The advice you'll often get in cases like this will consist of a few important parts:

1) take a break from all substances! This includes MJ and alcohol, but not any prescriptions you might be on.
2) live a healthy lifestyle. Focus on the simple things: eat healthy foods, a well rounded diet if necessary, and drink lots of fluids. Flush your system. Sleep at least 8 hours a night.
3) focus on the positive as you integrate this experience. For example, all of us are guilty of thinking other thoughts during conversation. Perhaps this could be an opportunity to become more mindful of such things and then improve your relationships with others.
4) give it time- in almost all such cases, time heals.

That's not to say that you'll ever be back to how you were before. An event like this can change you permanently. But this can be a very positive thing if handled the right way. Perhaps this is just the breakthrough you needed.

Best of luck with everything!
 
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#9 Posted : 4/17/2013 4:33:56 PM

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Hi there

I have had very long lasting effects from taking drugs and substances in the past and this has lead to me doubting I will ever be normal.

one time of 8 acids I didn't feel myself for about 3 months, I would loose myself in my own thoughts for hours then be like "WTF happened to the time" so I can relate to what is happening to you...

do what other have suggested, good diet, exercise, sleep and of course meditation.

Meditation is particularly powerful as it focuses the mind and calms one down.

Best of wishes, get well soon Smile

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#10 Posted : 4/17/2013 6:22:29 PM

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Either way you should contact a professional (preferably a psychiatrist and not a psychologist - the former is a M.D.) because what you are describing is some kind of dissociative symptom that could be the onset of something like a psychosis.

This is a long shot but does this feel similiar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derealization
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