Namaste,

As per my Welcome Essay, I will start by mentioning I have been browsing this forum for months and have recently signed up to participate in discussions and seek advise from fellow travellers, a big thank you to all of the warm welcomes I have recieved to date

One of the main reasons I have signed up to DMT Nexus is to discuss the Ayahuasca brew which I prepared recently and is currently sitting in an air tight preserving jar in my fridge. Having neither participated in any form of Ayahausca ceremony, nor experienced any type of DMT extractions etc, I admit I am a complete newbie when it comes to this interesting chemical!

My reasons for posting is to clarify the following points:

1: Was my preparation method acceptable in regards to dosages per person and general processes.
2: What level experience should I expect to receive, and also how much to drink first time round.
3. What fasting/cleansing/preparation exercises should I sustain for the most effective & safest experience.

So firstly, preparation. I ordered 150g of White B.Caapi Vine and 150g of Brazilian P.Viridis from an online vendor. I have not witnessed any reviews from the vendor in question, or have any experience with both products in the past so am unable to asses the quality of the vine/leaf which I received.
The P.Viridis was stored in the freezer for 24 hours. The vine was broken down into small strips as best as possible using scissors and a knife, and then left in distilled water with 3 tablespoons of white cider vinegar for 24 hours also.
The next day the (stainless steel) pot with the vine was brought to a low boil and continuously stirred every 10-15 minutes for 4 hours. During this time the P.Viridis leaf was crushed (as it was already dry), added to an (again stainless steel) pot of distilled water with 3 tablespoons of white cider vinegar whilst stirring at the same rate as the vine.
After the 4 hour mark, both pots were strained through a T shirt and combined into a 3rd bowl which resulted in a brown red, quite sweet smelling, liquid which reminded me of a nice red wine. The leaf and the vine were then added to one of the previously used stainless steel pots, more distilled water added (with an extra 2 tablespoons of the vinegar), and lightly boiled for an additional 4 hours whilst thoroughly stirring. This pot was then strained through another T shirt into the 'red wine' liquid pot and the leaf/vine discarded. I believe there may of still been some 'goodies' left in the discarded products but I decided to follow the instructions from the Ayahuasca Info site and go for 2x 4 hour boils instead of the usual 3 separate boils which I have seen on many other discussion boards. This was also to do with time constraints and the fact that this would be my first time preparing/ingesting the mystical brew.
The pot containing both of the combined liquids was then stored in the refrigerator for approx 36 hours before being removed and boiled down to around 1 pints worth of dark brown liquid which had minor sediments visible. As above, the 'pint' was then transferred to an air proof sealant jar and has been stored in the fridge for the past week.

Question time! Would you perceive the measurement of 150g of both the vine and the leaf to be a significant amount for a first time traveller who will most likely be 'testing the waters' alone (with family/friends in the same house might I add) and what would you estimate being a sufficient first dose now that the liquid has been boiled down to around a pints worth of liquid?

There are many many many many topics on whether fasting is actually beneficial before an Ayahuasca experience, and I would like to get as many views on this as possible. Personally, I will be looking to undergo a 3 stage cleanse/preparation where I would meditate every day during the week leading up to the experience, stick to 'la dieta' during the 3 days before and after the experience and drink only purified water and fresh fruits on the actual day (whilst omitting any sexual activity 3 days before and after).

Any information regarding the topics and my above enquiries would be greatly appreciated and you can guarantee I will be sure to report back after the big day! Which will most likely be in a weeks time

Many thanks for reading!

Ill try my luck on a different forum. Mods delete this please. Thanks.

ive only smoked DMT never eaten it but i beleave 150 grams of p.viridis is a pretty powerful dose however ive heard that doses can range from 50 grams to 200 depending on the source. p.viridis is suposed to contain .2 percent alkaloid concentration that would mean that 150 grams would contain 300 mg of DMT wich i believe is way more than enough for a full brake threw dose. id recommend starting with 50 grams P.viridis the first time but hey its your journey and ultimately your decision

Is that due to impatience or what is the probem here?

Anyway I think your dose is quite high. 150g of caapi is rather high dose, if the brew is potent and I think 2x4 hours should be pretty good. Standard doses for caapi (for inhibition) are 50-100g as far as I know.

With the p.viridis the dose would start at 30g. 150g seems like a very high dose. Perhaps you can make three doses from this one brew?

Joshisom, thanks for the reply. That is quite worrying Looks like I will be needing my spacesuit for this one then. Surely if I drink a smaller amount of the 'pint' say a shot glass full, this would be suitable to 'test the waters' so to speak? Thanks for the breakdown of DMT content also, thats very useful. I have heard that you never know what you will be getting purchasing from internet vendors and the leaf may be of poor quality, or even go the other way...

Enoon, again thanks for the reply. Sorry to come across as impatient that really wasnt my intention but it just seemed to me like the experienced users did not check this section of the forum. I didnt realise I had to be accepted before I could post with the big boys lol

Digging a little deeper it does state that the Chacruna should always be a lower dose than the vine, I wonder if you know of the implications of ingesting a 50/50 brew? Would it just be that the DMT related trip would be more intense and that the chances of the purge are decreased, allowing for a longer trip until the DMT wares off?

I was going to try and get at least 3 nights drinking out of the 1 pint to be honest, so I think I will start small and test it out.

Thanks for the input guys, any more would be extremely welcome

I'd be careful with this brew for the following reason:

if you drink say a third of it, it may be that your caapi dose is insufficient to give you full inhibition and will make the experience seem week. 50g caapi is said to work but it's at the low end from what I've heard and depending on the person it might not be enough. If you drink more - enough of it to have proper inhibition however, you are also ingesting a huge amount of DMT that might knock you off your socks.

Is there any way you could make a second caapi only brew and then drink some of that plus a third of the 50/50 brew (or whatever dose you were planning on)? This way you could get the full 50g (of the third of the pint) of p.viridis to become active.

As for the risk of purge, I'm not sure it is reduced when ingesting less vine. I think this depends strongly on the person. I for one ALWAYS purge when mixing harmalas and dmt, no matter what the mix is like. I would think that the experience would be very intense with this mix you have.

second.

really the only thing you need to worry about is not prematurely purging. once you hit the hour mark its bombs away, as far as i'm concerned