Some accounts say to cook the Harmaline gently in HCL acid solution to gently oxidise it' converting Harmaline to Harmine hcl'
Any ideas of what ph to aim for' Ph1-2 ?
Then gently boil off the water and HCL acid and dry the resultant product ?
Harmine HCL ?

Harmine hcl in salt water solution based with ammonia solution gives Harmaline freebase'
Harmaline hcl in salt water solution based with ammonia solution gived Harmaline freebase'
Harmine hcl in H2O' based with ammonia gives Harmine freebase'
Harmaline hcl in H2O' based with ammonia solution gives Harmaline freebase'
Harmaline hcl cooked in HCL acid solution gives Harmine hcl'

Any thoughts ?


Much appreciate your input 69ron and all you folks'

Blessings

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69ron, <whew> you always knew you have would have to one day type it all out and break it all down. Thanks. I think this has cleared up alot of grey area for everyone.

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This might sound stupid but what about taking THH or any of these other compounds rectally?

Like would it burn if i put it in a gel tab and did it rectally, i know you can do other chemicals like this at lower doses.

Now this report looks positive on the THH and DMT combo!

I may try this ...[simple spice and thh combo]... in low dose and see what happens..

The combo appears to work...[oraly] with all my vaping...ive never tryed it orally!

has anyone else tryed this combo?

this below .... is copy of old post that inspired my intrest in trying the combo orally....



Tetrahydroharmine (THH) and DMT taken orally Options

69ron
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Posted : 11/29/2008 12:23:26 PM
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SWIM did a test. He wanted to see if THH could activate DMT by itself.

He mixed 200 mg of THH HCl with 20 mg of freebase DMT in 1 glass of water along with 100 mg of citric acid to make the DMT dissolve.

He drank it down. Effects started at about 10 minutes with a unusual tryptamine feeling. At 30 minutes the effects were just starting to get really intense. It peaked at about 45 minutes. At 1 hour it was definitely fading but not quickly.

During the peak, the psychedelic state was quite intense. There were DMT visuals as expected (never as nice as bufotenine visuals though). The DMT overwhelmed the feeling of the THH. Even during the peak when the psychedelic effects are almost unmanageable, the mind still remained very clear and focused. SWIM was able to visualize people at will. It was quite remarkable. There was a very intense rush of energy during the peak. SWIM could not sit still and had to dance it off, which was a lot of fun.

SWIM was actually quite surprised at the intensity of the experience.

So to activate 20 mg of DMT, 200 mg of tetrahydroharmine hydrochloride is very effective.
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Thanks for the info. 69ron had some great info back in the day. Hope they are well these days. ;-)

I came across some posts, but can't find them now, with conjecture that 69ron was actually using THH mixed with harmine. Pure THH is a very weak RIMA, like 100x weaker than harmine or harmaline. Thus in theory it should NOT orally activate DMT.

I recently tried pharmahuasca with 100 mg harmine, 66 mg THH, 22 mg DMT. It was very active for me. I can try a test of just THH and a little DMT to see if maybe there is something worth reporting on.

BTW, starway7 - nice that you picked up the Liftmode THH.

Shroomby...Everytyhing I read claimed only .....THH with DMT!

Maybe there is something hadent read yet?





And yes ...[,..the 5 grams]... of THH was about 70 dollars!

But much cheaper!... than in 2008 when is was very rare.... and atleast 40 dollars per gram!


I have yet to sample mine...

This thread does not have any of the conjecture that 69ron's THH was mixed with harmine. I read it somewhere else, maybe not even on the Nexus.

Wasn't there a product out there back in the day that was claimed to be THH but was later found to in fact be harmine?

The whole reason 69ron got the boot was that it very much seemed like he was involved (maybe as a marketing stooge) in peddling what was claimed to be THH but at least some batches of it turned out to be harmine mixed with DMT. The FlowingVisions scandal... They also sold elemicin extracts, which ron heavily promoted.